> "Speaking of N891JF, Jim has mentioned "seeing speeds as low as 40 mph" while landing (in his "The Perfect Landing" piece at http://jfaughn.com/other/kr/uniquepartsofmykr/kr_landing.html ), so he's definitely talking about IAS, rather than GPS"
I think it's understood (hopefully) by everyone that the airspeed indicator isn't reading accurately at high angles of attack. And when touching down, the wing should be at quite a high angle of attack - as close to stall as is possible. Unless you're 20 feet above the runway as I was that day on the Wyoming border, you can't really get the wing fully stalled in a KR without the tail hitting, so all we can do is get as close to stall as we can. This conversation made me realize I never look at my airspeed indicator except on close final and sometimes on climbout if I'm worried about engine temps on a hot day. I also haven't ever made note of my GPS touchdown speed but I ought to do that. I can't imagine why I never have, but I haven't. I look for the needle to be below 60, the closer to 50 the better as I near the threshold. Otherwise I'm going to float too much once I'm in ground effect. Being careless just a little bit with speed at this point makes the difference between the first turn out or the second turnout. If I have to use brakes to make the first turnout I've been sloppy. I can't remember ever looking at the needle when feeling for the runway but I'm pretty sure if I've kept it as slow as I try to, my needle is going to show somewhere near 40 when the tires touch, as Jim says. It's a constant challenge to get that slow and is why I wish I had a better belly flap. Makes landing short much, much easier as I learned when flying Jim Morehead's plane. Mike KSEE ____________________________________________________________ How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54e295c159cff15c10f41st03vuc