Dne Čt 16. září 2010 Luiz Romário Santana Rios napsal(a):
> I know, handling all of your accounts at once is the whole point of KDE.
> But what are identities for, if not for letting many different users use
> the same account? I mean, if one user needs only one Identity, what's
> their use anyway?

Well, I personally have two identities in Kopete - one for private purposes 
(chatting with friends) and one for work (corporate Jabber). The former one 
contains a nickname and some private information, while the latter needs to be 
formal with only my real name, work position & e-mail and stuff like that. 
Almost every Kopete user I know has some kind of similar setup.

> > And what does "login quickly into an account" mean exactly? As far as I
> > know
> > KWallet already lets you do exactly that.
> 
> Logging in without registering an account, as a guest, let's say.

Now that's some interesting functionality, indeed. However, I don't know 
whether it's worth the hassle...

> > That gets us back from the all-integrated multiprotocol multi-identity
> > client
> > we have now to seven different icons in the systray and users having to
> > carefully pick which one to use, each and every time.
> 
> I think you're getting my idea wrong. I'm not willing to separate different
> accounts, but rather, different identities. And that's useful if two people
> are using Kopete at the same time, IMO.

How do two people end up using Kopete at the same time? A dual-monitor dual-
keyboard system?

> > And as far as multiple users go, there's no need to reinvent the wheel
> > here.
> > Every modern OS (including Linux) allows you to have many users on the
> > same machine, with full separation (including IM ;-)).
> 
> 1 - Many people use the same computer at the same time. It's not very cool
> to switch to another session when a message arrives and, then, switching
> back to the previous session. And what about three users at the same time?
> 2 - Whole new Linux, X and KDE sessions just for Kopete?

Switching a X session takes a second, tops. It's certainly not a lot slower 
than switching a window.
And if you really need to run several Kopete instances for different users 
within one KDE session, nothing is easier than su user2 -c kopete (or KDEsu, 
or making a desktop/menu icon to run Kopete as that user).

> > > > > > Having more than one identify for one instance has its use, so
> > > > > > has using different passwords for each identify (if configured to
> > > > > > do so). I think that is what you want, right?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kind of. Not only that, but, as I already said, a separate
> > 
> > contactlist
> > 
> > > > > and conversation window(s).
> > > > 
> > > > Separated contact history too, although I think separated history
> > > > would be automatic by using separated contactlist, I am just not
> > > > sure of
> > 
> > that.
> > 
> > > Yes, it would be included. The idea is: separate each identity
> > 
> > environment,
> > 
> > > so they can't interfere each other unless both users want to.
> > 
> > Then just go ahead and run two kopete processes with different config
> > dirs
> > 
> > :-)
> 
> I think that that's not very straightforward.

oK, true, but it's just a matter of creating a simple wrapper script/desktop 
file.

> Well, take this mail into consideration. If you still don't feel convinced,
> maybe I could do some other stuff (or a fork :p).

Of course, this all is just my opinion and that doesn't matter much (and I'm 
not the maintainer). Let's see what other people think, too.

2T

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