Hi,
I remembered a bug report relating to this:
*Bug 14332*
<https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14332> - Skip
title articles on Opac using ind2 of tag 245 (MARC21 only)
Koha uses the second indicator for sorting by title.
Katrin
On 20.09.19 09:08, Ere Maijala wrote:
Hi,
Even if leadign article or other nonfiling characters can be handled
pretty well in modern search engines, it's worth noting that it's not so
straight-forward for sorting or any left-anchored searches. Like you
mentioned, we should always keep in mind that MARC records can be
exchanged between systems, and not all are created equal. In my
experience any deviation from standards comes back to bite you at the
latest when you switch systems.
Regards,
Ere
Eric Phetteplace kirjoitti 18.9.2019 klo 19.55:
Hi Giacomo,
You're right that the second indicator, nonfiling characters, doesn't
really seem to do anything. It's an archaic holdover and probably not
needed with the complicated indexing mechanisms that are available to us
now. It's pretty trivial for machines to skip leading stopwords like "the"
etc. without instruction.
The first indicator is still meaningful, I believe. Having a main entry
under one of the 1XX fields and then a title added entry is enabled by this
indicator. So following this example documentation
<https://www.itsmarc.com/crs/mergedprojects/conser/conser/module_7_4__ccm.htm>
I found:
111 2# $a Federal Management Improvement Conference.
245 10 $a Proceedings of the Federal Management Improvement Conference.
The "title" of the serial is the name of the conference and the 245 is used
as an added entry. I'm not a cataloger so the function of a title added
entry isn't entirely clear to me but a lot (about half) of our records
have this indicator set to 1.
So our records still use both indicators, however we mainly copy catalog.
It makes sense to keep using the fields especially when it's free like
this. Just because they don't have a lot of importance in Koha doesn't mean
another system won't care about them and it makes the data more consistent
with other MARC repositories.
Best,
ERIC PHETTEPLACE Systems Librarian (he/him)
ephettepl...@cca.edu | o 510.594.3660
5212 Broadway | Oakland, CA | 94618
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:07 AM Giacomo Visini <
giacomo.vis...@divaantwerp.be> wrote:
Hi fellow Koha users,
Just a quick question. Can someone shed a light on the use of the
indicators in field 245? Since our conversion to Koha we stopped using
them, but data from previous systems has these indicators filled in. Upon
inspection, in most cases the given value is even wrong somehow (0's are
1's etc.). But it doesn't seem to affect indexation.
So my question is, is there no need to fill in the indicators of field
245? Do you guys use them? For what purpose?
For the sake of exhaustivity: we are currently using version 18.11.06.000
Thanks in advance for any replies.
Kind regards,
Giacomo Visini I Bibliotheekmedewerker
DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds
Gildekamersstraat 9, B-2000 Antwerpen
T + 32 3 360 52 42
giacomo.vis...@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.vis...@divaantwerp.be>
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