Would that it was as simple as: Play nicely with others; no name-calling, teasing, or bad language. . . Sadly, we're not five years old anymore.
I would like to plea for clear, concise language. Especially given the large number of Koha users whose native tongue is not English. I might even offer to help edit it. . . though I'm not usually known for my brevity! On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:34 PM, glaws <glaw...@rhcl.org> wrote: > I wish I knew the background better, but a lot of the recent discussion > on Codes of Conduct I think stems from some recent problems in the > gaming community. Again, I admit my knowledge is limited, but I think it > had something to do with male gamers putting down female gamers; very > offensive words and actions were used in that situation, and the > "outing" of personally identifying information was one of the problems. > > I think any reasonable person applying a reasonable standard would > realize the CoC wording as is currently stands wouldn't apply to the > examples I cited, nor to yours. It's the unreasonable factors we have to > be concerned with, and just a little modding of the wording will fix > things. > > > Greg > > -------------------- > > > > On 09/26/2014 04:12 PM, viktor.sa...@regionhalland.se wrote: > > I highly agree with the spirit of the CoC, but with this discussion I > realize that taking the following part literally would forbid me to give > people credit when listening to them during a KohaCon: > > > > "Harassment includes, but is not limited to: > > […] > > • Posting (or threatening to post) other people’s personally > identifying information. > > […] > > > > Names are the mother of personally identifying information and since a > good reputation is sort of the currency in a FOSS-community not being able > to publicly give people credit seems counter productive :) I guess the > paragraph is ment to cover giving credit, but as I read it that may be the > effect(?) > > > > Kind regards/Viktor > > > > Viktor Sarge > > Utvecklingsledare > > Regionbibliotek Halland > > Kultur i Halland > > > > TFN: 035-17 98 73 > > E-POST: viktor.sa...@regionhalland.se > > BESÖKSADRESS: Södra vägen 9, 30180 Halmstad > > WEBB: www.regionhalland.se/regionbibliotek > > > > > > > > 26 sep 2014 kl. 21:49 skrev glaws <glaw...@rhcl.org>: > > > >> I have some concerns about the Koha Community Code of Conduct posted > here: > >> > >> http://koha-community.org/about/policy/code-of-conduct/ > >> <http://koha-community.org/about/policy/code-of-conduct/> > >> > >> My specific concern is the second bullet point: > >> > >> Harassment includes, but is not limited to: > >> > >> * ---snip--- > >> * Verbal, graphic or written comments related to gender, gender > >> identity, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body > >> size, race or religion > >> > >> > >> which seems overly broad. > >> > >> Examples > >> > >> If, during a conference breaking for lunch, I say to a group of > >> attendees "I'm Buddhist, is there a vegetarian restaurant near here?", I > >> would seem to have violated this point (verbal...comment...religion). > >> > >> Or if I'm a presenter, and I make a comment for illustrative purposes, > >> like "Just as people come in all sizes, libraries also vary in size and > >> Koha is great for all of them", have I violated the code? > >> > >> Or if I'm with a group of attendees planning on going out somewhere, and > >> I say "I have <insert any health problem>, and I can't walk with you > >> that far", is that a violation? > >> > >> I would like to suggest that the wording for this particular point > >> include something to the effect that the references must be obviously > >> negative in nature or perhaps intended to give offense to to an average > >> person _based_on_some_reasonable_standard_. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Greg Lawson > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > >> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > >> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > _______________________________________________ > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > > -- > Greg Lawson > Rolling Hills Consolidated Library > 1912 N. 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