Dear Wayne, Thanks for taking the time to look at this. However, I should credit Seth for the hard work he has put on the document to get it to the shape it is in now - thanks Seth!
I've made you editor now - feel free to edit directly. I suppose I should make everyone from the lead development team an editor of this document - could you send me a private email with their email addresses, so I can add them? Roberto. On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 13:13, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Roberto, > > Sorry it took so long to reply but I've been busy. I did read your > draft and it looks promising. Please give me permission to at least > add comments. I don't necessarily need full edit permission. > > Thanks, > > Wayne > > On 7/11/20 8:01 AM, Roberto Fernández Bautista wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Has anybody had a chance to check the draft document I made on Pad > > Stacks > > < > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lxBI7_X_I7pO-nuDHPRVlfRBH24XTmwuuN69o_Bqk3s/edit?usp=sharing > >? > > > > I would like at least some feedback if this is the kind of document you > > would be looking for, or if not what to change about it/what it should > > focus on. > > > > I'm keen on pad stacks in KiCad since CADSTAR heavily relies on them - > > at the moment the importer wouldn't be able to handle complex cases. > > > > I would like to help wherever I can to get this in before v6 feature > freeze. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Roberto. > > > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 12:19, Roberto Fernández Bautista > > <roberto.fer....@gmail.com <mailto:roberto.fer....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Jon, > > > > Thanks for the advice. It will still be a while until I have > > something working but yes, I will create a merge request once I have > > a skeleton for the importer. > > > > @Jeff Young - I've made you an editor of the document I made on Pad > > Stacks > > < > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lxBI7_X_I7pO-nuDHPRVlfRBH24XTmwuuN69o_Bqk3s/edit?usp=sharing > >. > > Hopefully you will have received a separate email with an editor's > > link. Let me know if that wasn't the case. > > > > Roberto > > > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 02:51, Jon Evans <j...@craftyjon.com > > <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi Roberto, > > > > Welcome! Thanks for pointing that out about Altium, I learn > > something > > new every day! > > > > I recommend that you open a merge request for your CADSTAR > importer > > once it is far enough along for people to do some basic tests. > You > > can mark it as "WIP", but having the MR open early will help get > > early > > testing and review so that we can help get it in for V6. > > > > Regarding Pad Stacks, @Jeff Young is probably the best person to > > sync > > with on the lead dev team as he has recently been doing some of > the > > groundwork. > > > > Best, > > Jon > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 9:07 PM Roberto Fernández Bautista > > <roberto.fer....@gmail.com <mailto:roberto.fer....@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm new to the mailing list. I just wanted to make you aware > > that I'm starting work on a native Zuken CADSTAR importer for > > KiCad. I intend to follow a similar approach to @pointhi in the > > forums for his Altium importer - trying to stick to similar > > class structure where possible. My "short" term plan is to > > provide an importer for the CADSTAR PCB archive format (which is > > an ASCII file that is based on S-expressions). Since I'm doing > > this in my free time, I expect it will take a few months but > > hopefully the PCB importer would be ready before KiCad v6 > > feature freeze. Once I have something that sort of works, I'll > > make a merge request and ask for further feedback on how to > > improve it. > > > > > > Now, on a second note, I'd like to provide some input on Pad > > Stacks. I joined the mailing list after the last post on the > > thread "How do we envision Pad Stacks?" > > (https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg44006.html), so > > I can't reply to that thread directly, unfortunately. However, > > the topic discussed in that thread is very relevant to the work > > I am trying to do with the CADSTAR importer (and I bet also > > important for the Altium importer @pointhi made). > > > > > > I'd like to point out two small inaccuracies in Jon's message: > > > > > > In Altium you can define a full pad stack when editing > > footprints: Altium uses a default 14-electrical-layer board > > stackup which is then mapped to whatever layers you actually use > > in your design when you include the footprint. > > > You can define a SMD pad in an inner layer. > > > > > > Please see attached screenshots from v20.1 showing above two > > cases, maybe earlier versions didn't allow this?. More details > > can be found here: > > > https://www.altium.com/documentation/altium-designer/pcb-prop-padpad-properties-ad > . > > > > > > > > > To keep this email short, I've created a document with other > > bits of information that I feel might be useful (such as how > > CADSTAR handles Pad Stacks) as well as some suggestions for Pad > > Stack implementation in KiCad - maybe this could be the start of > > a more complex design document? > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lxBI7_X_I7pO-nuDHPRVlfRBH24XTmwuuN69o_Bqk3s/edit?usp=sharing > > > > > > Since this mailing list is public, I have made the above link > > view only access, but if you'd like to edit, just request it. > > > > > > Please let me know what you think. > > > > > > Roberto Fernandez (Qbort) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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