Hi Seth, Thank you very much for taking the time to look at it. I have made you an editor now. Is there anyone else I should make editor as well?
Thanks. Roberto On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 at 02:55, Seth Hillbrand <s...@kipro-pcb.com> wrote: > Hi Roberto- > > Thank you for starting this process. It would be very good to get a > padstack implementation specification written. Padstacks will be > definitely be useful for many importers but whether it gets implemented > will depend on developer resources to navigate the various issues (PNS, > plotters, connectivity, draw items, etc). We do currently take a number of > shortcuts on the assumption that our pads are consistent across their layer > range, so this will take a fair amount of work. > > I've sent a request for edit access to your document. I'll do my best to > help get it into implementation shape. > > Best- > Seth > KiCad Services Corporation [image: KiCad Services Corporation Logo] > Seth Hillbrand > *Lead Developer* > +1-530-302-5483 <+12126039372> > Davis, CA > www.kipro-pcb.com i...@kipro-pcb.com > https://twitter.com/KiProEDA <https://twitter.com/KiProEDA> > https://www.linkedin.com/company/kicad > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/kicad> > > > On 2020-07-11 05:01, Roberto Fernández Bautista wrote: > > Hi all, > > Has anybody had a chance to check the draft document I made on Pad Stacks > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lxBI7_X_I7pO-nuDHPRVlfRBH24XTmwuuN69o_Bqk3s/edit?usp=sharing> > ? > > I would like at least some feedback if this is the kind of document you > would be looking for, or if not what to change about it/what it should > focus on. > > I'm keen on pad stacks in KiCad since CADSTAR heavily relies on them - at > the moment the importer wouldn't be able to handle complex cases. > > I would like to help wherever I can to get this in before v6 feature > freeze. > > Thanks. > > Roberto. > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 12:19, Roberto Fernández Bautista < > roberto.fer....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jon, >> >> Thanks for the advice. It will still be a while until I have something >> working but yes, I will create a merge request once I have a skeleton for >> the importer. >> >> @Jeff Young - I've made you an editor of the document I made on Pad >> Stacks >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lxBI7_X_I7pO-nuDHPRVlfRBH24XTmwuuN69o_Bqk3s/edit?usp=sharing>. >> Hopefully you will have received a separate email with an editor's link. >> Let me know if that wasn't the case. >> >> Roberto >> >> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 02:51, Jon Evans <j...@craftyjon.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Roberto, >>> >>> Welcome! Thanks for pointing that out about Altium, I learn something >>> new every day! >>> >>> I recommend that you open a merge request for your CADSTAR importer >>> once it is far enough along for people to do some basic tests. You >>> can mark it as "WIP", but having the MR open early will help get early >>> testing and review so that we can help get it in for V6. >>> >>> Regarding Pad Stacks, @Jeff Young is probably the best person to sync >>> with on the lead dev team as he has recently been doing some of the >>> groundwork. >>> >>> Best, >>> Jon >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 9:07 PM Roberto Fernández Bautista >>> <roberto.fer....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I'm new to the mailing list. I just wanted to make you aware that I'm >>> starting work on a native Zuken CADSTAR importer for KiCad. I intend to >>> follow a similar approach to @pointhi in the forums for his Altium importer >>> - trying to stick to similar class structure where possible. My "short" >>> term plan is to provide an importer for the CADSTAR PCB archive format >>> (which is an ASCII file that is based on S-expressions). Since I'm doing >>> this in my free time, I expect it will take a few months but hopefully the >>> PCB importer would be ready before KiCad v6 feature freeze. Once I have >>> something that sort of works, I'll make a merge request and ask for further >>> feedback on how to improve it. >>> > >>> > Now, on a second note, I'd like to provide some input on Pad Stacks. I >>> joined the mailing list after the last post on the thread "How do we >>> envision Pad Stacks?" ( >>> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg44006.html), so I can't >>> reply to that thread directly, unfortunately. However, the topic discussed >>> in that thread is very relevant to the work I am trying to do with the >>> CADSTAR importer (and I bet also important for the Altium importer >>> @pointhi made). >>> > >>> > I'd like to point out two small inaccuracies in Jon's message: >>> > >>> > In Altium you can define a full pad stack when editing footprints: >>> Altium uses a default 14-electrical-layer board stackup which is then >>> mapped to whatever layers you actually use in your design when you include >>> the footprint. >>> > You can define a SMD pad in an inner layer. >>> > >>> > Please see attached screenshots from v20.1 showing above two cases, >>> maybe earlier versions didn't allow this?. More details can be found here: >>> https://www.altium.com/documentation/altium-designer/pcb-prop-padpad-properties-ad >>> . >>> > >>> > >>> > To keep this email short, I've created a document with other bits of >>> information that I feel might be useful (such as how CADSTAR handles Pad >>> Stacks) as well as some suggestions for Pad Stack implementation in KiCad - >>> maybe this could be the start of a more complex design document? >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lxBI7_X_I7pO-nuDHPRVlfRBH24XTmwuuN69o_Bqk3s/edit?usp=sharing >>> > >>> > Since this mailing list is public, I have made the above link view >>> only access, but if you'd like to edit, just request it. >>> > >>> > Please let me know what you think. >>> > >>> > Roberto Fernandez (Qbort) >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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