I agree on all of this points, unsure about the GBR, but i think it
might help in the same way that the netlist icon has "NET".
In addition the DRC ladybug icon could use the letters DRC.
The current set of icons are really "engineer-icons" as i like to call
them, they try to tell the entire function-set of the program/product,
instead of an icons purpose of being easier/faster to recognize than
reading its name. Almost every Technical researcher and Engineer i have
met falls for this, including me.
Also, not many icons actually do better than a 3 letter
word/abbreviation as long as it is very common knowledge.
Just my opinions, feel free to discard them if you like :)
Ps. thank you Oliver for putting in the time here. Everytime i present a
student to KiCad the icons are actually confusing them more than helping
from what I see.
- Kristoffer
On 2018-01-07 10:59, Jeff Young wrote:
+1 to eeschema icon changes
+1 to reverting libedit and modedit, but with no pencils
+1 to no magnifying glass (the drill file, net and BOM icons all have
three letters on them; I’m sure GBR would fit on the gerber icon)
I still think we need to change the project icon in the navigation to
something similar to the New Project icons (instead of the application
icon).
Kudos to Oliver for spear-heading this.
Cheers,
Jeff.
On 7 Jan 2018, at 08:32, Andrey Kuznetsov <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree, no pencils, no magnifying glass.
By the way, anyone else thinks the .lib file icons in the navigation
looks weird? If it's meant to look like a few stacked books, why are
they tilted in weird directions?
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Simon Wells <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
if the modedit/libedit icons are to be reverted then i believe
the pencils should be removed, seeing as they were used to
portray edit i believe but now that pcbnew/eeschema don’t have
them they just seem odd
On 7/01/2018, at 2:28 PM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have been intending to revert the annotate icon in eeschema to
the old one, which made much more sense to me thatn the current one.
2018-01-07 1:24 GMT+01:00 Oliver Walters
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
I have attached a patchset which performs the following:
1. Revert libedit icon to previous version
2. Revert modedit icon to previous version
3. Updates pcbnew icon to look more like a PCB
4. Update colors of eeschema icon
5. Various (almost imperceptible) tweaks to a number of
icons to fix graphic alignment issues
Here is a screenshot of the updated icons:
<Selection_010.png>
<Selection_009.png>
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Walters
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 7 Jan 2018 05:04, "Chris Pavlina"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I wish we had something resembling a policy for
icons. It seems like
someone always wants to change them. We had decent
icons for these
_before_, and then someone submitted new ones, and
they were accepted
because... I don't know? Many of the new icons are
really ambiguous and
kind of useless. Shouldn't have been merged.
This is why I'm pushing for *a* change and not *my*
change, I remember how the argument went last time,
before they were silently merged.
I also note that there is a lack of consistency between
similar icons. e.g. there are many icons which
incorporate an arrow but the style/shape of the arrows
varies.
For the record, I like these proposed ones. They
bring back the ability
to recognize them at a glance.
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:52:49PM +0000, kristoffer
Ödmark wrote:
> I would love to see improved icons, I still never
get used to them so i read
> the tooltip, newer know which one is pcb and which
one is module editor.
>
> Luckily most of the time I only need to double
click the kicad_pcb file
> anyway :)
>
>
> On 2018-01-06 15:08, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> > 2018-01-06 14:15 GMT+01:00 Jeff Young
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > And I like Oliver’s proposed icons. I’d
suggest two further
> > changes though:
> >
> > 1) The schematic icon (which Oliver didn’t
change) should really
> > use the default colours (dark red symbols,
green wires). Then
> > there’s a stronger tie-in with the libedit icon.
> >
> > 2) I think I’d drop the dimensions from the
modedit icon, and
> > change the pad colour to the default (yellow).
> >
> >
> > The default pad color is not yellow, that is
only what you see for THT
> > pads. Default pad color is green for bottom and
red for top copper
> >
> >
> > 3) Projects should use the current New Project
icon, rather than
> > the application icon.
> >
> >
> > I have considered to submit a patch for this for
some time, but I guess
> > it is an appropiate time to do this with a major
version bump.
> >
> >
> > 4) Both the New Project and New Project from
Template icons should
> > get yellow “new” star.
> >
> > 5) New Footprint in modedit also needs the
star, and the star on
> > New Symbol in libedit made more prominent.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff.
> >
> >
> > > On 6 Jan 2018, at 12:30, Oliver Walters
> > > <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think there is a need to tweak the
libedit and modedit icons,
> > > as identified below:
> > >
> > > <Selection_006.png>
> > >
> > > <Selection_007.png>
> > >
> > > 1. The blue 'textured' background is out
of place with the other
> > > icons
> > > 2. They are very cluttered and hard to read
> > > 3. Weirdly specific callout of dimensions
and part names (out of
> > > character with other icons)
> > >
> > > Further, I think that the pcbnew icon could
be adjusted slightly
> > > to make it look a bit more like a PCB
> > >
> > > Even as someone who uses KiCad on a
regular basis I find myself
> > > double checking which icon I am about to
click on (and still
> > > getting it wrong half of the time).
> > >
> > > Below is a /**suggestion**/ of some
improvements. I am not trying
> > > to back my own horse here, I'd be happy for
anyone else to
> > > suggest a better design for any of these. But
I feel that
> > > changing these icons would be a good
improvement to make before
> > > the v5 release. There have been many
people complaining about
> > > these icons in particular, both here and
on the user forums.
> > >
> > > <Selection_008.png>
> > >
> > > Is this a worthwhile endeavor, or are
people attached to the
> > > weird blue icons?
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