On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Gustavo Silva < gustavosantaremsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ali, please calm down. > I'm calm but sleepy ... > > Didn't we already had a contact email? I believe it was > contact@kibo.computers. It's not about the time it spends to do that, but > it's about having 5 addresses and no one to use them. > No. I'm the founder, not Phill. Phill said there is an account called: contact@kibo.computer. I don't see that :) I have the main account and I can create anything I want. I can assure you: there are only two: info@kibo.computer which has been created a week ago or so. media@kibo.computer which I created today. info@kibo.computer = is what we shall use. media@kibo.computer is just an account for the same of login, no more. It will not be used as an account to send or receive emails ;) > > That's the exact point dude... Nobody answered in the blueprints and > everybody seemed lazy enough to add there information - So I created a form > which as incomplete. Later, I've added your requests. Didn't I shared with > you? Lol - http://prntscr.com/5flbf0 (3 dias atrás = 3 days ago). > I admit I have never seen that email. Sorry, my inbox is a mess and I have spent two days so far to clean it but I haven't yet done. You're right, I didn't see that one. > > Our personal social media. How do you expect to attract anyone to anything > with a project that does not really exist? > Does not really exist? hmm, then what are we doing now? :) > The best method to get people involved is by calling out our friends and > relatives. > Which I'm the only one among you all who is doing that, by the way :) > > Ali, we need the website running before doing anything. > For clients, yes. To recruit people to the project? I think this is enough: amjjawad.net/kibo > Put yourself in the role of a potential consumer or a guy that knows some > stuff and it's looking for a job/voluntary job. Basically we dont' exist! > We need to stack up our resources, gather a couple of specialties and then > proceed to the rest. We can't start incrementally adding features to us > because we're dealing with a highly concentrated and exploited market - the > consultancy one - and if we have nothing in the first place, we'll be > nothing. We need to excel in this, and that I guarantee you. > While I see your point and appreciate your input, I think you're yet again confused about what I'm trying to say :) Please, try to understand that when I say spread the word, I don't mean bring clients. I mean spread the word so people know there is something called Kibo. I highly disagree that our website is a sign of our existence. You can't ignore a team, a mailing list, an IRC channel, chatting, meetings, etc. If we were not exist, that would have never happened. No, I am not saying the website is not important. I'm saying we are exist but without something for our targeted audience. If the server and the website under my full control, this conversation would never be exist :) Sadly, I must wait someone to do something so we can do something. > > In regard to website, I just posted what JasonO told me in regard to those > 404 not found errors. > I was talking about something else :) it seems we are talking apples and oranges. It has been fixed as far as I can tell. However .. > Why you can't add people, I have no clue. > I can't add people because he has not given me super access like I had days ago. Why? because he removed - I guess - the WordPress and Re-Installed it again. Not sure, he didn't reply yet. > However, the sub-pages seem to be working. > Indeed, I confirm. I have created a sub-page called "Test" to double check that. It is there. The issue now: I have no super access. > > 2014-12-11 12:57 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com>: > > >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gustavo Silva < >> gustavosantaremsi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> >>> >>> Ali, I'd like to say that I think you should take it easy. >>> >> >> :) >> >> >>> Once again, we're shooting things everywhere and not to what is needed... >>> >> >> :) >> >> >> >>> Why creating the info@kibo.computers, when we had the other one? Media >>> is understandable, but not high priority imo. >>> >> >> I'm buying sometime waiting for the website to be up and running :) >> NOTHING is working until now. I can NOT add users :) >> >> What is wrong with info@kibo.computer? >> Why that is an issue now? >> It has been created a week ago, maybe ... >> Do you know how long it takes to create an email? few seconds :) >> >> >> >>> >>> Why do you wish to create what already exists? >>> >> >> Like?! >> >> >> >>> Why writing things in the blueprint and also answer a form? >>> >> >> Why would ANYONE here share his/her phone for example on a public place, >> such as the blueprints on Launchpad? I think you jumped with a conclusion >> without understanding where I'm coming from :) >> >> >> >>> Stick to just one of them. >>> >> >> See above! >> >> >>> The idea of the form was to make it simpler for those who are busy but >>> wish to contribute to the project. >>> >> >> Note: you have created that form yourself. I appreciate that. But that >> could have been done on the blueprints ;) >> >> What can not be done on a public place is: the personal info like email, >> phones, etc. >> That should be on a form where only us can access - I think I have >> explained that 3 times so far. >> >> >>> The form was edited and already has all the information we need and most >>> of you asked. Link: >>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1pjhKFe--bJGSnCXsHpwxRmuMMpFo07N6qs3rbSejfi4/viewform?usp=send_form >>> >> >> >> Perfect :) >> But, you have not shared that nor informed us until this very moment so >> how would we know it has been updated with what is needed? :) >> >> >> >>> >>> The best way to get new people cooperating with us is by spamming the >>> social media imo. >>> >> >> Which social media? >> We have zero followers :) >> Unless we pay to gain followers? that is different story ... >> >> >> >>> Creating ads and what-not, seems a bit unnecessary. However, if >>> everybody agrees, let's go for it. >>> >> >> Hmm, maybe we should define here what is necessary and what is not? :( >> It seems we have different opinions about spreading the word. That is >> fine. I don't mind that. But can we really move forward in one aspect while >> waiting the website to be up and running? >> >> >> >>> >>> Ali, here's what happened with the website: >>> <JasonO> phillw: I fixed it >>> <phillw> which is why we switched back >>> <phillw> JasonO: what was it? >>> <JasonO> phillw: Apache config :P >>> <phillw> ah, that bit :) >>> <JasonO> Yeah didn't tell Apache to allow the .htaccess >>> <JasonO> gsilvapt: All good now >>> >> >> Again, it is not yet working as it suppose to be. >> I can't add people. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> 2014-12-11 12:08 GMT+00:00 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Jonathan Aquilina < >>>> eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @jason or Phill whats going on here? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Both are not here :) >>>> And, that is why I have asked Jason, 3 times so far (or more) to >>>> explain to me what on earth is going on? yet, he has never replied that >>>> question. >>>> >>>> I hope you (Jonathan and others) see my frustration and why I'm not >>>> happy. >>>> >>>> Again, it is not about trust but put yourself in my shoes: what would >>>> you do if you have a business, a website for that business but you have no >>>> control over that website? what would you feel? >>>> >>>> Oh, you want more? I can't even add you now, Jonathan ... it seems I'm >>>> not a Super Admin as I used when the WordPress first installed. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to cool down here :P >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) < >>>>> amjja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jonathan Aquilina < >>>>>> eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ali you already added me on the current website? did you delete that >>>>>>> account? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Funny and odd enough, I have no power on the server :( >>>>>> It is Jason who is controlling everything. I guess he has removed and >>>>>> re-installed WordPress 3 times so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is why I feel not comfortable. Not that I don't trust people (if >>>>>> I really don't trust them, I would never work with any) but look at the >>>>>> wasted time? if I have a server and a full control over it, everything >>>>>> would have been done in 2 days maximum. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, I haven't removed anyone. It seems everyone got removed by >>>>>> removing WordPress. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thus, I need to add you, Emily and Gustavo, yet again. >>>>>> >>>>>> AND, I do need to change the settings AGAIN for the 3th or 4th time >>>>>> :( >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) < >>>>>>> amjja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been silent for 2 days now and couldn't join IRC. Not only I >>>>>>>> was tired, I'm having a serious personal issue that I had to deal with. >>>>>>>> Today, I decided to step on everything and move forward. I can't just >>>>>>>> surrender to personal issues no matter how serious/hard it is. I mean, >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> can't give up. As for sleeping more, I'm working on it :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, what happened with Kibo so far? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Jason, the one who installed WordPress on Phill's Server so >>>>>>>> we could use that on our website; hopefully fixed the technical >>>>>>>> issue that >>>>>>>> we are having with the website - Jonathan is aware of it. >>>>>>>> 2. info@kibo.computer has been created for a while and I >>>>>>>> already received few emails. What would you like to do with it? >>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>> steps in and take full charge as his/her time allows? or there >>>>>>>> should be >>>>>>>> more people? or you want us to handle it? whatever you think will >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> better, share your idea. For now, it has only very few emails so I >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> handle it for now. I'm talking about the near future :) >>>>>>>> 3. media@kibo.computer has been created. It is for Marketing >>>>>>>> purposes + social media channels. >>>>>>>> 4. Twitter, Facebook, Google+ and YouTube channels have been >>>>>>>> created. I won't share that until we have a working website and a >>>>>>>> logo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To-do very soon? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. I need each and everyone of you to tell us exactly what is >>>>>>>> his/her role will be? there are many blueprints that you guys >>>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>> commented on yet (by editing the white board). >>>>>>>> 2. I will create the form of the staff information that I told >>>>>>>> you about earlier. Once done, I shall send it. >>>>>>>> 3. I shall put an ad on a local website and ask for people to >>>>>>>> join us. I'd suggest you do the same on your local website. I know >>>>>>>> what you >>>>>>>> will say (we have website to show nor logo) but what if we put a >>>>>>>> small >>>>>>>> summary about Kibo with a contact way so those who are interested >>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>> call? remember, focus on: members (staff) those who will get paid >>>>>>>> as per >>>>>>>> projects or tasks and volunteers who will not get paid but will >>>>>>>> learn a lot >>>>>>>> so they could fill the gaps on their CVs and learn new stuff in >>>>>>>> return of >>>>>>>> what they can offer. Don't mention the 3rd type (investor) yet. >>>>>>>> 4. I will do my very best to ignore what I'm having from hard >>>>>>>> time and work on the website. If anyone wishes to help, please say >>>>>>>> so. I >>>>>>>> have added people but because of the technical issue, all names are >>>>>>>> gone >>>>>>>> except me, Jason and belkinsa. So, I need to re-add you (Emily, >>>>>>>> Gustavo and >>>>>>>> Jonathan). Please remind me if that won't happen in 24 hours from >>>>>>>> the date >>>>>>>> of this email. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guess that is all for now! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks :) >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>>>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu >>>>>>>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - Ubuntu GNOME >>>>>>>> <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kibo-project >>>>>>>> Post to : kibo-project@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kibo-project >>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>>>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> >>>>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jonathan Aquilina >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>>> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> >>>> - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kibo-project >>>> Post to : kibo-project@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kibo-project >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos, >>> Gustavo >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >> Best Regards, >> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - >> Ubuntu >> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - http://amjjawad.net >> > > > > -- > Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos, > Gustavo > > -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." 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