On Thursday, 26 December 2019 19:25:09 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El dimarts, 24 de desembre de 2019, a les 13:05:23 CET, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau va escriure: > > Am Montag, 23. Dezember 2019, 09:57:57 CET schrieb Volker Krause: > > > On Sunday, 22 December 2019 09:46:02 CET Dominik Haumann wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > in any case, maybe the discussed points should go to the KF6 > > > > workboard? > > > > https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/310/ > > > > > > > > I indeed believe that consistency in the KF5 world is an important > > > > feature, > > > > so Friedrich does have a point here. Other framework additions had to > > > > adapt > > > > as well (what comes to my mind is renaming of KQuickCharts or > > > > KCalendarCore). > > > > > > There is one important difference between KCalendarCore/KQuickCharts/etc > > > and Grantlee/QKeychain/etc though. The former had no previous release > > > promising a public API and therefore only KDE-internal users. The > > > latter have such releases and guarantees, and a significant > > > KDE-external user base. That's what makes me consider a transitional > > > pragmatic exemption from certain conventions, if we assume it would > > > help to grow our external user base, and thus the pool of potential > > > contributors. > > > > Having to make exemptions shows a principal design flaw though: if the > > idea is to pull in more libraries into KF, incl. some with previous > > releases & thus existing userbase hoping on longer-term stable ABI, the > > same will also happen in the KF6 series. And even for the currently > > discussed two libs Grantlee & QKeychain it means at least 1 1/2 years & > > longer (assuming KF 6.0.0 is coming then, and see how long kdelibs4 > > survived) for being just "exemptions". It's rather that the "exemptions" > > become part of the rules that way. > Which kind of exceptions are we speaking about? > > ABI stability? or?
The opposite actually :) It's about keeping existing API/ABI of frameworks with a significant (KDE external) user base when joining KF5, until the next major release, even if that means making compromises regarding e.g. our naming conventions. Regards, Volker
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