On Monday, November 30, 2015 12:59:02 PM CET Luigi Toscano wrote: > On Monday 30 of November 2015 12:48:26 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > there is currently a review request to add OSX specific changes to > > framework integration plugin [1]. > > > > This seems wrong to me. I think our framework integration plugin is about > > integration Qt applications into the Plasma workspace. In my opinion it > > should not be used anywhere else. Not on GNOME, not on Windows and not on > > OSX. The idea of integration is that applications look native on the > > desired platform. The plugin defines the native look on Plasma and by that > > using it on other platforms is automatically breaking the integration. > > > > Now I understand that some people don't like the native look of their > > platform and would prefer using Plasma. Sorry I don't have an answer to > > that. Unfortunately I think it's completely out of scope for the > > integration platform to be considered outside Plasma. > > Really? I see people trying to use KDE Applications (for example on #kde) on > different desktop environment and being confused for the look and feel. I > understand that: > - you don't want the Plasma look used outside Plasma > - yes, other desktop environment should provide and integration plugin > > but isn't it really possible to have a "simpler" default integration plugin, > when no one else is provided, that at least show the icons, for example?
That would belong into Qt, shouldn't it? > > I think we are not helping users of KDE applications but not Plasma users, > and let's be realistic about the possibility of other desktop environment > providing an integration plugin. > > > Given that: if people agree with my view that the framework integration is > > only about Plasma, I suggest that we move the framework integration to > > kde/ > > workspace to release it together with Plasma instead of frameworks. > > IMHO only if it's possible to package and load it outside Plasma, or > otherwise if there is a more sane default plugin. what's more sane? Qt should do sane things, if not it needs to be patched. Cheers Martin
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