On Monday 12 May 2025 18:06:13 Eastern European Summer Time Christoph Cullmann wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday, May 12th, 2025 at 16:19, Harald Sitter <sit...@kde.org> wrote: > > It being generated by AI is not the same as it being low quality > > though? Are we against low quality or against AI? > > I think there is a big difference between just low quality and AI. > > Naturally high quality contributions are nice, but if somebody puts in time > to contribute and just the quality is lacking, I am willing to help. > There is effort spent on both sides. > > With AI, there is no effort spend on the other side, just some wasted energy > consumption. With such contributions you can DoS any organization. > > Greetings > Christoph >
Pretty much what you said. And sure, there's no obvious ways to deduct if someone is using AI to generate their things or not. What I want though is have a rule to point at the obvious ones: "Stop wasting our time or go away." I know there's no perfect solution nor we can't really block them. But having something is better than nothing. I hope we could follow what other projects are doing, like the one I linked. - Aks > > On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 4:11 PM Akseli akse...@akselmo.dev wrote: > > > On 12 May 2025 16.40.44 EEST, Harald Sitter sit...@kde.org wrote: > > > > I mean, I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not exactly sure what a sign somewhere will help. People can just > > > > ignore it, after all, they ignored the code of conduct (be > > > > considerate) as well as the seemingly obvious courtesy of not wasting > > > > other people's time... may as well ignore the sign. At the same time > > > > routing all input through anti-AI AIs is probably not a useful > > > > expenditure of time either. 🤷 > > > > > > Maybe it wont help, but at least we have a sign to tap on. "This was > > > obviously generated with AI, we dont allow that, bla bla" > > > > > > > > > Rules will never be followed by bad actors but at least when they exist > > > they can be enforced.> > > > > > On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 2:53 PM Akseli akse...@akselmo.dev wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's been a lot of "AI" slop spam to various KDE projects, bug > > > > > reports, forums, etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should take a more public stance on disallowing all this slop. > > > > > Lengthy gitlab issues that are just full of nonsense generated by a > > > > > bot just take time out of everyones schedules, trying to decipher > > > > > if its serious or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other projects have already done something similar, see for example: > > > > > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-> > > > > > > > > > contributions/27327 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't care if someone uses those tools in their personal projects, > > > > > but bringing this slop in to our shared space just frustrates > > > > > people and eats resources to go through. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we have somekind of official "please don't AI slop in our > > > > > places" sign somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > - Akseli Best regards, - Aks
