On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Moritz Hobe <m...@online.de> wrote:

> Am Montag, 16. Mai 2011, 20:34:13 schrieben Sie:
> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Moritz Hobe <m...@online.de> wrote:
> > > Am Montag, 16. Mai 2011, 15:07:04 schrieben Sie:
> > > > so turn it off
> > >
> > > "People like it!"
> > > "Well, I don't."
> > > "Turn it off."
> > >
> > > "See, people like it."
> > >
> > > (?)
> >
> > No.....
> >
> > "_Some_ people like it. "
> > "_Some_ others don't."
> >
> > Don't throw up a straw man that makes out that anyone was talking in
> > absolutes, because both the pro- and con- sides have meticulously avoided
> > doing so.
>
> Todd claimed that complaints were mostly hypothetical, so johnm noted that
> there were non-hypothetical cases.
> Telling him to turn the feature off is no solution whatsoever because
> that's
> not what the discussion is about (and I'm sure he knew - at least after the
> discussion that has been going on - there are ways to turn it off).
> It is implying that his argument is invalid, and, well, that's a way of
> talking in absolutes: you either like it or you should just turn it off and
> keep silent.
>
> (By the way: I like the feature even though it has annoyed me too when I
> accidentally ripped e.g. Eric5 out of the maximised mode, so: I'm not a
> hater)
>
But what you wrote then and what you are now saying are different. You
didn't say anything about the implementation issues or that some
applications had issues with the feature you created a simplification of the
arguments that resulted in a misrepresentation of one side of the argument's
position.

Also, the "turn it off" comment was in response to the line "I as a user
strongly dislike this new dragging behavior".... which is hardly a comment
about an aspect of the technical implementation but is purely a comment
about a preference, to which a reply of "then turn it off" seems eminently
appropriate.

If you'd wanted to make a point about the limitations of turning off the
feature versus the technical constraints of the style feature (like you
appear to be doing in your most recent post) you could have just done so
from the outset.
 
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