https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454345
--- Comment #66 from Nate Graham <n...@kde.org> --- Because we know this issue has multiple underlying root causes, we need to treat each one individually. We think it's fixed in Plasma 5.27.3 at this point. William hasn't told us otherwise; his last comment concerned Plasma 5.26.4 which we know was still buggy. If you're saying that the issue still happens for you when you run `kquitapp5 plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell`, we need to investigate that separately, because it could be (and probably is) happening for a totally different reason from why it was happening for William. It's totally possible that William will say, "hallelujah, it finally works for me in Plasma 5.27.3" and you'll say, "grr, no it doesn't, running `kquitapp5 plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell` still breaks it for me!" All that means is that the same proximate causes (restarting plasmashell using kquitapp5 and kstart5) trigger different codepaths and you're hitting a buggy one. Hence, we need to fix that separately and we need a new bug report for it. --- But if you want to know what will *actually* happen next, it's that developers will largely ignore the issue because they're completely overloaded with work and this issue is non-deterministic and impossible to reproduce at will. Eventually developers woh do get some time to work on this will throw out the old code because at this point we've learned that it's fundamentally flawed, and they write a new system that is architecturally better, like we recently did for KScreen. In the process they will fix the root causes of this issue but introduce new ones that were unanticipated or are the result of imperfect config migration, so the system will still feel buggy especially to existing users, just in different ways. Eventually those issues will be fixed one-at-a-time as well. After 2 or 3 years of bugfixing a system with a sane and comprehensible architecture, this part of the system will finally feel stable to new users and old users who have re-installed or figured out how to reset their configs. Anything other than the above will require more development and QA resourcing than currently exist. If you would like to help make this better, I would encourage contributions with code, QA, bug triaging, or donations. Anything else isn't helpful, sorry. If you want to help, then help. Don't just tell us we're doing it wrong. What we need is more contributions from people who can help fix things. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.