https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358990
--- Comment #25 from Eike Hein <h...@kde.org> --- > At this moment in time, in order to place icons in the order that I like, I > have to delete them all and then place them one at a time. I'm not sure I follow the "I have to delete stuff" thing - Folder View on the desktop supports dragging icons into any position on the grid at any time. This ticket is about wanting to move icons outside the grid. Which is currently not supported, but certainly a legitimate wish. > You had this superb folder plasmoid that allowed many features and crippled > it for Plasma 5. No, we had a folder plasmoid with many, many bugs that had been mostly unmaintained for two years prior, and was written against a Qt 4 API that can't be used in Plasma 5, turning the entire code obsolete. The Plasma 5 version shares no code with the KDE 4 version. It's a full rewrite. Off-grid positioning wasn't removed, it was not implemented. > Is this what the devs decided what was best for users coming from KDE4? Yes, don't you know that all we do all day is sit around and think how we could hurt our users best? That's totally my first thought when I get up in the morning. I went into open source and spent 11 years hacking on KDE (mostly for free, for many thousands of hours more than you probably did) because I'm a real meanie, and making software that doesn't cost any money seemed the most effective way to make the world a bit worse, release by release. There's totally never any engineering reasons in play. Like, say, finite manpower, or finite hours in the day, or deciding on a core feature set that can be supported at a higher quality level than before. Every time there's change you personally don't like it's because that was the goal. Totes. Do you feel patronized or pissed off by the above two paragraphs? That's how others feel when you write your implicitly antagonistic fight-the-powa stuff, too. Think about that next time you think it's cute to make that your narrative, or think shaming/guilting people is a good way to motivate them into doing what you want. > We have thousands of users that are very disappointed. Who's we, and what's the raw data backing that statement? That would actually be really helpful for triage. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.