https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459115

Lastique <andy...@mail.ru> changed:

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--- Comment #16 from Lastique <andy...@mail.ru> ---
(In reply to john.liptrot from comment #14)
> (In reply to Lastique from comment #12)
> > I'm reopening this.
> > 
> > This bug doesn't ask specifically to use alphabetical order, rather it
> > suggests this as one possible solution for a problem.
> > 
> > The problem is that the current behavior results in incomprehensible output,
> > where packages rapidly change their order in the list as installation
> > progresses, to the point that one simply can't see which package is being
> > installed. I don't think you can call this behavior intentional, and this
> > bug asks to address this problem, one way or another.
> 
> This is not a problem, nor is it a bug, it is a wishlist item.

I don't really care how you classify this issue, although to me the current
behavior doesn't seem desirable, so I would classify it as a problem. But if
you think it is a request for improvement, so be it, whatever.

> I don't see this as a problem and yes it is intentional - see comment #1. It
> is your responsibility to check beforehand which applications or packages
> are being updated. Discover sorts by progress to give the maximum feedback
> to the user.

I don't have a problem with the list with checkboxes to select which updates to
install. I have a problem with what is presented to the user once the update
process starts. The way the update process is presented, depending on
circumstances, can be incomprehensible. *That* is the problem.

> > If you don't like the alphabetical order as a solution, fine. Then please
> > suggest another solution that makes the package list more stable.
> 
> The list is perfectly stable before you click 'update all'. Read it and
> untick anything you don't want updating.
> 
> Why do you want to watch the updates?

Why do you present the updates? (No, this is not a suggestion to not show the
updates.)

I do like to see what is happening, which packages are being downloaded and
installed. I don't like when I have like a dozen packages being downloaded and
installed, and they are presented as a list that is constantly re-shuffled like
60 times per second.

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