Hi Michael,
both options seems valid.
Maybe option 2 could make OpenJUMP simpler and more actractive for
beginners/occasional users.
Giuseppe
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Da: Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr>
A: OpenJump develop and use <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Inviato: Mercoledì 7 Marzo 2012 8:30
Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] [openjump-users] orthogonalize plugin
Hi,
Thanks for the answer Stefan,
I changed the subject to orthogonalize plugin
There is still a minimum of two options to include it :
- Include it in the CORE version. In this case, I think its place is
in Tools>Generalisation menu, but I would be pleased to hear
other's advice.
- Include it in the PLUS version as an external extension. In this
case, it will come in a Plugin>Generalization menu, and I think
it woud be
consistent to gather simplification, simplification JTS, simplify a
polygon layer, orthogonalize and smoothing plugins in this extension
and to remove Tools>Generalization (simplification/simplification
JTS would still be available as core functions in
Tools>Analysis>Geometry function plugin)
Please, give your opinion or propose another menu organisation.
Michaël
Le 06/03/2012 20:30, Stefan Steiniger a écrit :
Sorry for the late answer,
>
>I am fine with having the orthogonalize plugin build-in for plus
maybe? If we would put it into the GenToolbox it would need a new
release and actually a description of what is different between
the two plugins with similar goals. And currently I can't say that
I would have time for that???
>
>As far as I remember Larrys plugin is more straight forward - i.e.
I have a lot of overhead processing as it was supposed to be
included in an automated system.
>
>other opinions?
>stefan
>
>On 29/02/2012 3:36 PM, Michaël Michaud wrote:
>Hi,
>>
>>Hmm, sourceforge autoblocked my first reply attempt (from gmail, no less).
>>Anyone else having issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for the quick reply Michaël.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Is Copy Select Elements to New Layer the same as OpenJUMP's
>>>ReplicateSelectedItemsPlugIn (org.openjump.core.ui.plugin.edit) ?
>>>
>>>ReplicateSelectedItemsPlugIn (yours, I think)
From Stefan actually,
>>
>>has more sophisticated checking for different schema on multiple layers, but
>>it would need to be modified to support external invocation from another
>>plugin (not hard), or I could just inline the needed code in Orthogonalize.
>>>
If it is small, inline maybe fine. I just draw your attention because having
several classes and/or plugins doing almost the same thing is difficult to
maintain.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>There is now a kml parser in JTS...
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is good news. The one I wrote is based on the JUMP
GML parser. It doesn't support hierarchical geometries
(you'd think this would be easy, but I didn't find it to
be).
>>>
Sorry for the misleading. JTS as in fact GML parser, not KML (don't know the
gap between both formats for geometry).
>>http://tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/io/gml2/GMLHandler.html
>>
>>But still, it may be worthwhile using it to simplify
maintenance.
>>
>>Michaël
>>
>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2012/2/29 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have done a basic port of the Orthogonalize plugin from SkyJUMP to
>>>>OpenJUMP. Orthogonalize is a tool (currently on the right click menu) that
>>>>squares up selected building polygons. Orthogonalization is the process of
>>>>fixing polygons and multipolygons whose interior angles are close, but not
>>>>exactly 90 degrees. An angle tolerance parameter controls what we mean by
>>>>not exactly. You have the option of fixing in place on the source layer,
>>>>or to a new layer. Stefan looked at this tool a few years ago.
>>>>>
Stefan, how does this tool compare with Mapgen toolbox?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The tool is dependent on another function: Copy Select Elements to New
>>>>Layer. I ported it too. Some enhancement of the GeoUtils class was
>>>>necessary.
>>>>>
Is Copy Select Elements to New Layer the same as OpenJUMP's
ReplicateSelectedItemsPlugIn (org.openjump.core.ui.plugin.edit) ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>No internationalization has currently been
done, but all messages are collected at the
top of the source.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm cross-posting this to the developers
list. @Developers: What do you think is the
appropriate action? Just commit it or make a
new plugin hosted on jump-pilot?
>>>>>
I like to have advanced options in extensions (generalization, corrections,
simplification... can lead to a lot of advanced functions).
>>>>But we can discuss with others wether or not it
should be included in the core.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>@Arnd, the KLM support is another story.
Michael had a look at it a few months back.
As I recall, the coordinate translation to
geographic projection is the issue.
>>>>>
Right, I had a look at it. I noticed 3 points :
>>>>- Projections : as far as I can remember, kml
files can be I/O as geographic or UTM
>>>>coordinates. You are right, this is a limitation.
But we can suppose that OpenJUMP
>>>>users use Ede's CTS or another tool for
transformations (I use my own for french
>>>>projections).
>>>>- I also had a look at the code, and noticed that
geometry is parsed by your own code.
>>>>There is now a kml parser in JTS and I thought
that it would simplify the code if we
>>>>could use it (started to do this, but as you know,
days are only 24 hours and weeks
>>>>only 7 days ;-)
>>>>- Last point is that the first kml I really wanted
to parse failed to be parsed (I think
>>>>this is because it was hierarchically structured
with several folders included in each
>>>>others (do not know if it is not conform or if it
is a limitation of the parser).
>>>>
>>>>That said, the plugin works fine for simple kml
files. I included it in an "extension"
>>>>available on http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/drivers/
>>>>and if other users have a good experience with it
and want it to be uploaded on
>>>>sourceforge right now, I'll do it.
>>>>
>>>>Michaël
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Arnd,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>yes, it means you can use an old one.
>>>>>>there should be no disadvantages -
except maybe that you can not use ecw
images. I think most of the changes
where done to find the right Java path
(in case you have several java versions)
and to ensure that the jpg2000 and ecw
drivers are found. As long as all the
plugins are there that you want - it
should be fine ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, if you have windows, you may
just download the link to the bat file
that Ede sent (if you can download bat
files with the security settings).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>cheers,
>>>>>>stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 27/02/2012 1:56 PM, Arnd Kielhorn
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Larry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from the ISA-plugin I am espec.
using OrthogonalizePlugIn and
KML-Support.
>>>>>>>And we use the
Workbench-properties.xml also for
some non-free plugins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stefan meant that I can use the
old startup script which
references the
Workbench-properties.xml to use
its functionality. I tested it
with OJ 1.5.1 and it works what I
can see. The question is: is there
any disavantages using the old
startup script instead of the new?
>>>>>>>If not, I can use the old one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Arnd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't think there were any features left in the ISA-plugin that hadn't
>>>>>>>>been incorporated into OJ. If
there are, perhaps we should
just port them
>>>>>>>>over. I think ArcSDE support is
available as a stand alone
plugin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>@Arnd, what features do you
still use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Larry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:50
AM,<edgar.sol...@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 27.02.2012 09:59, Arnd Kielhorn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Am 26.02.12 08:16, schrieb Arnd Kielhorn:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could it be that the
workbench-properties.xml
is not referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>OJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1.5.1 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
yes, but only not in the start script
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I use the ISA-plugin which need entries in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
workbench-properties.xml to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
who is actually maintaining, developing the isa tools? the link on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Plugins_for_OpenJUMP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is dead.
>>>>>>>>>we have older releases than
2.5 here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/ISA%20Plugins/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>actually the proper fix would be add an extension that loads the
>>>>>>>>>
plugins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but adding bin/workbench-properties.xml to the jump parameters in start
>>>>>>>>>scripts if it exists won't
hurt either.
>>>>>>>>>please try
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://jump-pilot.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jump-pilot/core/trunk/scripts/oj_windows.bat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>..ede
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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