Martin wrote: " I think I agree with Larry - that's an ambitious list of features, which might take more than the proposed budget to implement effectively."
Maybe not so ambitious. We may already have DXF support that works, and I've got most of the framework for the SVG export shelled out already. The hardest part will be the support for external tables. I'm thinking I can find the funding to pay for that. I can bang out the rest of the SVG export myself, if need be. In this case the SVG export won't be too fancy. It won't utilize graphical information from the layer, for example. Everything will be exported in black. Additional functionality can be added later. SS On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sounds like Landon was already on the same page as what I suggested. > What I took away from this discussion is that in order for OpenJump to be > commercially viable, there would need to be a paid support option. While > this may sound like an opportunity for some enterprising people to start a > GIS company, it is hard to make the business case that there is any demand > for this. Of course, it is a chicken and egg problem. No support until > there is demand, and no demand until there is support. > > What we need is a way to track the number of users that use OpenJump in > their business. This is just not possible with the sourceforge download > system. Voluntary registration is the only option that I can think of > besides putting some sort of tracking system in the software itself that > registers for automatic updates or some such. > > regards, > Larry > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> While I all in favour of see funding available to improve OpenJUMP, I >> think I agree with Larry - that's an ambitious list of features, which >> might take more than the proposed budget to implement effectively. >> (They're all solid real-world use cases, though, which would be good to >> add to the OJ roadmap). >> >> Larry's idea of a mixed environment is a good one, I think. Have you >> thought about looking at Manifold? It's a very inexpensive, >> high-function GIS platform. >> >> Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >> > The company that I work for (KSN Inc.) has a small sanitary district >> > that has been our client for several decades. Because of some new >> > government regulations they have to prepare base map and inventory of >> > their entire sanitary system. My company beleives this is a good >> > opportunity to implement a small and simple GIS for the district. My >> > boss is currently having me look into different proprietary software >> > systems that we might use to implement the GIS. >> > >> > However, after taking a look at the proprietary software that is >> > available in our price range, I really beleive that OpenJUMP is a >> > viable candidate. Here is the problem: I don't have time with my other >> > work responisiblities to provide dedicated programming services for >> > OpenJUMP when these will be needed by the client (and they will be >> > needed). I can't go to my boss to suggest OpenJUMP as a possible >> > software package for the GIS implementation unless I have a third >> > party organization that would be willing to work on customization of >> > OpenJUMP to meet the client's needs. I'm not sure if we have any >> > organizations involved in our community that would be interested in >> > this type of work. (I know Larry Becker does something like this, >> > Martin Davis has his little business, and I think the deegree Project >> > also does this type of work.) If I can't find a company that is >> > interested in this type of work I'll have to fall back on a >> > proprietary solution. >> > >> > If we do have some companies that might be interested, I will prepare >> > a short request-for-proposal. Here is what I am thinking I'll need >> > out-of-the-gate: >> > >> > - Some enhanced SVG export abilities. I'm not talking about using >> > Batik. I need something that is more precise and that maps the >> > transition from OpenJUMP's task coordinate system to the SVG >> > coordinate system in a predictable and repeatable fashion. I've >> > already started fleshing some of this code out, but it isn't complete. >> > I need to be able to get features from OpenJUMP exported as SVG >> > tailored for Inkscape for map production. >> > >> > - Better support for DXF import and export. My company works with CAD >> > data almost exclusively, and this project would be dealing with a lot >> > of CAD data. I need a reliable DXF import and export plug-in. >> > Something could probably be built using the existing DXF plug-ins, but >> > it would need a little tweaking. I'd really only bei nterested in the >> > following CAD entities: Lines, LWPolylines, Points, and Text. However, >> > I'd like to see an underlying DXF parser that makes other drawing >> > entities available to the client API. >> > >> > - Support for external tables. I don't want to use a database here. I >> > just want to be able to view, manipulate, and query tabular data in an >> > external file. I'd probably want to use CSV files, although I'd be >> > open to an implementation that used binary files. >> > >> > I'm thinking I'll have a ballpark budget of $3,000 to $6,000, which is >> > what it would cost to license a proprietary solution for the first >> > year. I could likely make a similar amount available in subsequent >> > years for additional development work. As part of the proposal I'd >> > also like an approximate hourly rate for bug-fixing. >> > >> > All and any code developed under this project would be released under >> > the GPL or LGPL, and the developing company could maintain the >> > copyright. If I can make this implementation successful, there would >> > be potential for additional business with other KSN clients. >> > >> > I think this is a great opportunity to get some paid development >> > contributed back to the OpenJUMP community. I hope we have an >> > organization that is interested. I wish I had the time to do the work >> > myself. >> > >> > Please let me know if you'd be interesetd in responding to an RFP >> > similar to the one I describe above. Or, if you are interested in >> > cost-sharing the development of some of the improvements for OpenJUMP >> > that I describe above, let me know that as well. >> > >> > The Sunburned Surveyor >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> > challenge >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> > prizes >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> > world >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Martin Davis >> Senior Technical Architect >> Refractions Research, Inc. >> (250) 383-3022 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > > > -- > http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
