Hei again,

Sunburned Surveyor schrieb:
> Stefan,
> 
> I didn't mean to dig up a bone of contention. Please remember what I
> laid out on the wiki was just a suggestion. I can delete it at any
> time.

not yet.. i played around as well ;)
> 
> I brought up the suggestion of using the SourceForge wiki for two (2) reasons:
> 
> [1] Someone suggested the OJ wiki could use a little more structure
> and organizing.
yep .. i read that and i agree..
If i could have a whish.. then i would like to have a complete new "easy 
to use" & "out-of-the-box" wiki-webpage-forum. But such webpage requires 
a server with a database, i.e a CMS,.... as far as i found out (besides 
a host). I think we would need one person fully dedicated to maintain 
such wiki-webpage-forum.

as a minor note: the QGIS side is nice, but for my feeling contains also 
too much information on the first page (due to the use of 3 "frames").

> 
> [2] Larry and Peppe were talking about using the wiki for help in OpenJUMP.
yes.. i did that too ;) but i think this was before Peppe started the 
doc on the OJ wiki.

> 
> Having said that, I really don't care which wiki we use. If you feel
> strongly about staying with the OJ wiki we have now then lets do that!
> (I agree that any transition of the wiki would be a lot of work.)
> 
> In this case I think the documentation of OJ functions that Peppe has
> come up with should stay on the OJ wiki and not be moved to the
> SourceForge wiki.
mhm.. i wonder what the others think?


> 
> You wrote: "And hey... please be carefull to start new wiki's and and so on..
> consider the time you can work on that first : there are already 2 more
> OJ wikis, where i consider one as being completely unnecessary, while
> the second you rather be renamed due to it's rather personal touch."
> 
> We have three wikis? I can think of only two (2) wikis. One is at
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/HomePage and the other is at
> http://thejumppilotproject.pbwiki.com/. Where is the third?

ups this was a mistake

> 
> Which wiki would you like to rename? The wiki I have for the JPP?

i meant the openjump blog. As i feel it rather treats OJ indirectly - 
i.e. it should be something like Sunburneds Thoughts on OpenSource GIS 
:o). Anyway.. don't take this latter comment to serious.


> 
> The Sunburned Surveyor
> 
> 
> On 9/10/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On the wiki...
>>
>> i am not very happy with the idea of transfering all the stuff of the OJ
>> wiki to the sourceforge wiki. Only the function-help would i consider so
>> far.
>> The point is, that the current wiki is quite established and there is
>> lots of information on the site. It is further impossible for me to
>> manage two wikis (or say: i don^t want that!). I also would like to see
>> at least a split layout into side menu frame and content frame (like the
>> instiki main page) - but this is not as important as having an
>> information source.
>>
>> what concerns the sourceforge wiki. It is an anlternative, but it comes
>>  with all the sourceforge stuff - i.e. headers. Which i don't like. I
>> also think, that only sf-members can have write access.
>> Furthermore i am not really a fan of heaving separates entries for users
>> and for developers. It makes the overall wiki-structure more unclear and
>> may lead to doubled efforts, for which we do not have the man power.
>>
>> finally.. i would agree with using the sf wiki to describe the OJ
>> functionality - but therefore it should have currently only one
>> main-menu item which is "OJ Functionality". This leaves as room for
>> later improvements. But generally .. as there has been now done a lots
>> of effort by Peppe on the current wiki - i would even agree to not start
>> with SF wiki dure to the maintenance efforts for both.
>> (And hey... please be carefull to start new wiki's and and so on..
>> consider the time you can work on that first : there are already 2 more
>> OJ wikis, where i consider one as being completely unnecessary, while
>> the second you rather be renamed due to it's rather personal touch)
>>
>> my 2cents
>> stefan
>>
>> PS: i may change my mind when Jon will stop providing web space. But we
>> need also a more "professional" and easy to maintain web site such as
>> the one QGIS has (i had again a look on xoops - which was used for the
>> first JPP webpage, but to dive into the setup takes time which i don't
>> have)
>>
>> Giuseppe Aruta schrieb:
>>>
>>> */Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* ha scritto:
>>>
>>>     Peppe,
>>>
>>>     I would like to try and review some your help documentation for
>>>     OpenJUMP functions/menu items.
>>>
>>>     Do you care if I make these edits directly in the wiki, or should I
>>>     make them in a separate document so you can review them?
>>>
>>>     What do you think about having me copy the content to the new
>>>     SourceForge JPP Wiki when I am finished with my review?
>>>
>>>     The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>
>>>     Landon,
>>>     I answer your letter late since I am working abroad and I cannot see
>>>     my email regularly.
>>>
>>>     You can directly correct the help documentation on wiki pages. This
>>>     is the fastest way to work, I think.
>>>     Regarding new
>>>     SourceForge JPP Wiki, that probabily is the the natural position of
>>>     the help context. So it is OK to copy it, maybe in the future to move.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Peppe
>>>
>>>     Ciao
>>>
>>>     Peppe
>>>
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