+1 move ["don't think twice, its alright" -- Bob Dylan]
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:26:59 AM UTC-5, Patrick Kofod Mogensen wrote: > > My take: make the move or don't. > > Stuff like forwarding posts only creates confusion, and people start > answering things that aren't seen by the person asking, because of the > one-way-street-thing. > > On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 2:24:18 AM UTC+1, Valentin Churavy wrote: >> >> `julia-dev` has now moved to discourse. >> >> One possibility would be to start forwarding posts for `julia-users` from >> Google Groups to Discourse, but that is a one way street. So before I >> enable that I would like to hear what everybody thinks about it. >> >> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 at 02:01 Tom Breloff <t...@breloff.com> wrote: >> >>> +1... can we move already? Discourse is a huge improvement. I >>> specifically don't answer some questions here because of the difficulty in >>> writing answers with code. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Stefan Karpinski <ste...@karpinski.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> - Selectively subscribe to certain topics/categories of discussion and >>>> not others. >>>> - Selectively see threads that reach certain quality/interest >>>> thresholds. >>>> - Take links directly from where one reads messages >>>> (I really dislike the Google groups interface, so I use Gmail for >>>> reading messages, but then getting a link to a post is a real pain; the >>>> Discourse interface is much better). >>>> - Real tools for moderation, management and administration. >>>> - Active, open development >>>> Google Groups is not only proprietary, but it's also effectively >>>> abandonware. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Simon Byrne <simon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Personally, I find the following an improvement over google groups: >>>>> - code blocks (copying and pasting code into the google groups >>>>> interface always tends to look bad) >>>>> - the ability to edit posts >>>>> - the ability to move threads to different categories (i.e. posts to >>>>> julia-dev which should have gone to julia-users, etc) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 6 November 2016 10:33:20 UTC, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Le dimanche 06 novembre 2016 à 01:49 -0800, Andreas Lobinger a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> > Hello colleague, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > The Julia community has been growing rapidly over the last few >>>>>> > > years and discussions are happening at many different places: >>>>>> there >>>>>> > > are several Google Groups (julia-users, julia-dev, ...), IRC, >>>>>> > > Gitter, and a few other places. Sometimes packages or >>>>>> organisations >>>>>> > > also have their own forums and chat rooms. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > In the past, Discourse has been brought up as an alternative >>>>>> > > platform that we could use instead of Google Groups and that >>>>>> would >>>>>> > > allow us to invite the entire Julia community into one space. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > What problem with the julia-users mailing-list and the google >>>>>> groups >>>>>> > web interface is solved by using discourse? >>>>>> You can have a look at the previous thread about this: >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/julia-users/4oDqW-QxyVA/lw71uqNGBQAJ >>>>>> >>>>>> I also encourage you to give a try to Discourse (this can be done >>>>>> without even creating an account on their test instance). >>>>>> >>>>>> > Why do you think (can you prove?) more centralisation will happen >>>>>> > with discourse? >>>>>> Centralization will be made possible by allowing for sub-forums >>>>>> dedicated to each topic (stats, optimization, data...) inside >>>>>> Discourse >>>>>> itself, instead of creating totally separate mailing lists as is >>>>>> currently done. Of course people will still be free to use something >>>>>> else, but that's quite unlikely. >>>>>> >>>>>> > > We would like to solicit feedback from the broader Julia >>>>>> community >>>>>> > > about moving julia-users to Discourse as well, and potentially >>>>>> > > other mailing lists like julia-stats. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Please define 'We'. >>>>>> "We" meant "Julia core developers". >>>>>> >>>>>> > > If you have feedback or comments, please post them >>>>>> > > at >>>>>> http://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to- >>>>>> > > discourse or in this thread. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In some parts of the world, asking for feedback on a topic via a >>>>>> > different medium is seen as unfriendly act ... but still there is >>>>>> > this thread. >>>>>> The idea was that we would like to see how well it works by having >>>>>> people use Discourse for this discussion. But as you noted there's >>>>>> this >>>>>> thread for people who don't want to to that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> > Wishing a happy day, >>>>>> > Andreas >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 6 November 2016 10:33:20 UTC, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Le dimanche 06 novembre 2016 à 01:49 -0800, Andreas Lobinger a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> > Hello colleague, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > The Julia community has been growing rapidly over the last few >>>>>> > > years and discussions are happening at many different places: >>>>>> there >>>>>> > > are several Google Groups (julia-users, julia-dev, ...), IRC, >>>>>> > > Gitter, and a few other places. Sometimes packages or >>>>>> organisations >>>>>> > > also have their own forums and chat rooms. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > In the past, Discourse has been brought up as an alternative >>>>>> > > platform that we could use instead of Google Groups and that >>>>>> would >>>>>> > > allow us to invite the entire Julia community into one space. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > What problem with the julia-users mailing-list and the google >>>>>> groups >>>>>> > web interface is solved by using discourse? >>>>>> You can have a look at the previous thread about this: >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/julia-users/4oDqW-QxyVA/lw71uqNGBQAJ >>>>>> >>>>>> I also encourage you to give a try to Discourse (this can be done >>>>>> without even creating an account on their test instance). >>>>>> >>>>>> > Why do you think (can you prove?) more centralisation will happen >>>>>> > with discourse? >>>>>> Centralization will be made possible by allowing for sub-forums >>>>>> dedicated to each topic (stats, optimization, data...) inside >>>>>> Discourse >>>>>> itself, instead of creating totally separate mailing lists as is >>>>>> currently done. Of course people will still be free to use something >>>>>> else, but that's quite unlikely. >>>>>> >>>>>> > > We would like to solicit feedback from the broader Julia >>>>>> community >>>>>> > > about moving julia-users to Discourse as well, and potentially >>>>>> > > other mailing lists like julia-stats. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Please define 'We'. >>>>>> "We" meant "Julia core developers". >>>>>> >>>>>> > > If you have feedback or comments, please post them >>>>>> > > at >>>>>> http://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to- >>>>>> > > discourse or in this thread. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In some parts of the world, asking for feedback on a topic via a >>>>>> > different medium is seen as unfriendly act ... but still there is >>>>>> > this thread. >>>>>> The idea was that we would like to see how well it works by having >>>>>> people use Discourse for this discussion. But as you noted there's >>>>>> this >>>>>> thread for people who don't want to to that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> > Wishing a happy day, >>>>>> > Andreas >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>
