My take: make the move or don't. Stuff like forwarding posts only creates confusion, and people start answering things that aren't seen by the person asking, because of the one-way-street-thing.
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 2:24:18 AM UTC+1, Valentin Churavy wrote: > > `julia-dev` has now moved to discourse. > > One possibility would be to start forwarding posts for `julia-users` from > Google Groups to Discourse, but that is a one way street. So before I > enable that I would like to hear what everybody thinks about it. > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 at 02:01 Tom Breloff <t...@breloff.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> +1... can we move already? Discourse is a huge improvement. I >> specifically don't answer some questions here because of the difficulty in >> writing answers with code. >> >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Stefan Karpinski <ste...@karpinski.org >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> - Selectively subscribe to certain topics/categories of discussion and >>> not others. >>> - Selectively see threads that reach certain quality/interest thresholds. >>> - Take links directly from where one reads messages >>> (I really dislike the Google groups interface, so I use Gmail for >>> reading messages, but then getting a link to a post is a real pain; the >>> Discourse interface is much better). >>> - Real tools for moderation, management and administration. >>> - Active, open development >>> Google Groups is not only proprietary, but it's also effectively >>> abandonware. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Simon Byrne <simon...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Personally, I find the following an improvement over google groups: >>>> - code blocks (copying and pasting code into the google groups >>>> interface always tends to look bad) >>>> - the ability to edit posts >>>> - the ability to move threads to different categories (i.e. posts to >>>> julia-dev which should have gone to julia-users, etc) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, 6 November 2016 10:33:20 UTC, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Le dimanche 06 novembre 2016 à 01:49 -0800, Andreas Lobinger a écrit : >>>>> > Hello colleague, >>>>> > >>>>> > > The Julia community has been growing rapidly over the last few >>>>> > > years and discussions are happening at many different places: >>>>> there >>>>> > > are several Google Groups (julia-users, julia-dev, ...), IRC, >>>>> > > Gitter, and a few other places. Sometimes packages or >>>>> organisations >>>>> > > also have their own forums and chat rooms. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > In the past, Discourse has been brought up as an alternative >>>>> > > platform that we could use instead of Google Groups and that would >>>>> > > allow us to invite the entire Julia community into one space. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > What problem with the julia-users mailing-list and the google groups >>>>> > web interface is solved by using discourse? >>>>> You can have a look at the previous thread about this: >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/julia-users/4oDqW-QxyVA/lw71uqNGBQAJ >>>>> >>>>> I also encourage you to give a try to Discourse (this can be done >>>>> without even creating an account on their test instance). >>>>> >>>>> > Why do you think (can you prove?) more centralisation will happen >>>>> > with discourse? >>>>> Centralization will be made possible by allowing for sub-forums >>>>> dedicated to each topic (stats, optimization, data...) inside >>>>> Discourse >>>>> itself, instead of creating totally separate mailing lists as is >>>>> currently done. Of course people will still be free to use something >>>>> else, but that's quite unlikely. >>>>> >>>>> > > We would like to solicit feedback from the broader Julia community >>>>> > > about moving julia-users to Discourse as well, and potentially >>>>> > > other mailing lists like julia-stats. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > Please define 'We'. >>>>> "We" meant "Julia core developers". >>>>> >>>>> > > If you have feedback or comments, please post them >>>>> > > at http://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to- >>>>> > > discourse or in this thread. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > In some parts of the world, asking for feedback on a topic via a >>>>> > different medium is seen as unfriendly act ... but still there is >>>>> > this thread. >>>>> The idea was that we would like to see how well it works by having >>>>> people use Discourse for this discussion. But as you noted there's >>>>> this >>>>> thread for people who don't want to to that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> > Wishing a happy day, >>>>> > Andreas >>>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, 6 November 2016 10:33:20 UTC, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Le dimanche 06 novembre 2016 à 01:49 -0800, Andreas Lobinger a écrit : >>>>> > Hello colleague, >>>>> > >>>>> > > The Julia community has been growing rapidly over the last few >>>>> > > years and discussions are happening at many different places: >>>>> there >>>>> > > are several Google Groups (julia-users, julia-dev, ...), IRC, >>>>> > > Gitter, and a few other places. Sometimes packages or >>>>> organisations >>>>> > > also have their own forums and chat rooms. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > In the past, Discourse has been brought up as an alternative >>>>> > > platform that we could use instead of Google Groups and that would >>>>> > > allow us to invite the entire Julia community into one space. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > What problem with the julia-users mailing-list and the google groups >>>>> > web interface is solved by using discourse? >>>>> You can have a look at the previous thread about this: >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/julia-users/4oDqW-QxyVA/lw71uqNGBQAJ >>>>> >>>>> I also encourage you to give a try to Discourse (this can be done >>>>> without even creating an account on their test instance). >>>>> >>>>> > Why do you think (can you prove?) more centralisation will happen >>>>> > with discourse? >>>>> Centralization will be made possible by allowing for sub-forums >>>>> dedicated to each topic (stats, optimization, data...) inside >>>>> Discourse >>>>> itself, instead of creating totally separate mailing lists as is >>>>> currently done. Of course people will still be free to use something >>>>> else, but that's quite unlikely. >>>>> >>>>> > > We would like to solicit feedback from the broader Julia community >>>>> > > about moving julia-users to Discourse as well, and potentially >>>>> > > other mailing lists like julia-stats. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > Please define 'We'. >>>>> "We" meant "Julia core developers". >>>>> >>>>> > > If you have feedback or comments, please post them >>>>> > > at http://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to- >>>>> > > discourse or in this thread. >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > In some parts of the world, asking for feedback on a topic via a >>>>> > different medium is seen as unfriendly act ... but still there is >>>>> > this thread. >>>>> The idea was that we would like to see how well it works by having >>>>> people use Discourse for this discussion. But as you noted there's >>>>> this >>>>> thread for people who don't want to to that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> > Wishing a happy day, >>>>> > Andreas >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
