If you had read any JSP books you know know that taglibs are a small part
of the JSP 1.1 spec.  So, no, you won't see anything about taglibs
specifically.  Hmmm, on java.sun.com:
* There is the drop down under "The Java Platform" there is an item called
"JavaServer Pages".  Looks like a good place to start.
* The link "JavaServer PagesTM Short Course" on the main page MIGHT be
helpful.
*You can also do home->products->j2ee->jsp.

This stuff isn't that hard to find.  Programming is not an exercise in cut
and paste.  It takes effort.   Put in the effort.  My RTFM attitude was
beaten into me by my college sysadmins/professors.  You need to at least
show that you have made an effort before going off and asking a couple of
hundred people about your problem.  They have better things to do than be
your first line of help.  Help yourself.  If still stuck, ask the list, but
state what you have already tried.

Um, I did mention a manual.  The Professional JSP book from Wrox.  That is
about as good of a JSP manual as your are going to get.  And even they
don't do a good job of describing the .tld class for taglibs.  For that
check out http://www.weblogic.com/docs51/classdocs/API_taglib.html .  Yea
its BEA, but check out the Defining a Tag sub-heading.
--Angus Mezick
Trying to teach them to fish.


Walter Landman wrote:
>
> Ok now i'm in java.sun.com.  On the left I see
> Products, Develoer, Docs&Train, Online Support, Industry, Solutions, Case
> Studies.
>
> Also I then see Press, Java Tutorial, etc, etc.  Hmmm let me click on Java
> Tutorial.
>
> How nice. JDK1.1 and Beyond!.  Nothing about Taglib's there.  Let me go
> back, and try something else.  Docs and Training.   So where do I go from
> here?  Well I guess I would click on Other Java Technologies.  Still
> nothing let's go back.  Now let's try optional packages.  Well gee I
> remember reading something about taglib's having to deal with servlet's so
> I'll go there.  Ah Java Servlet Technology  Let's goto Product Info.
> Nothing again.
>
> My whole point?  Java.sun.com is a tangled mess.  Of course you can use
> the messy search tool.  So was pointing him to java.sun.com any help?
>
> Sure you did the patented RTFM routine.  You just forgot to mention which
> manual :-).
>
> --
> Walter Landman                  Ultinet Internet Services
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> e-mail are my own and not       Developer / Programmer
> my employer
>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Joseph B. Ottinger wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Walter Landman wrote:
> >
> > > Dear asshole,
> >
> > Yes?
> >
> > > We were all beginners one day.
> >
> > Yes, for one day I was a beginner. Then I learned. :)
> >
> > > I remember pulling my hair out for 2 hours wondering why this doesn't
> > > work..
> > >
> > > java HelloWorld.class
> >
> > Ah, you didn't read, did you?
> >
> > > I am sure some people on this list might find your questions to be
> stupid
> > > and idiotic.  Why point the main at java.sun.com?  Or tell him to buy a
> > > book?
> >
> > Yeah, pointing him at java.sun.com would imply that you're giving him
> > something (accurate) to read, and what would be the point of that?
> >
> > > What I would recommend is http://www.orionserver.com/taglibtut/
> > >
> > > Your Dear Dummy e-mail sounded something like I would send cause i'm an
> > > idiot.  But that doesn't give you any excuse.
> >
> > Yeah, Magnus' tutorial is quite good - and very popular, deservedly
> > so. (Do I get a Toaster, Magnus?) However... the *canonical* place to
> > start is still java.sun.com, so since I'm in a nitpicky, asshole-ish mood
> > spurred on by people saying "be kind to people who won't look at the
> basic
> > rudiments of what they're trying to use," I'd still point to sun as the
> > starting point.

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