Ok now i'm in java.sun.com. On the left I see
Products, Develoer, Docs&Train, Online Support, Industry, Solutions, Case
Studies.
Also I then see Press, Java Tutorial, etc, etc. Hmmm let me click on Java
Tutorial.
How nice. JDK1.1 and Beyond!. Nothing about Taglib's there. Let me go
back, and try something else. Docs and Training. So where do I go from
here? Well I guess I would click on Other Java Technologies. Still
nothing let's go back. Now let's try optional packages. Well gee I
remember reading something about taglib's having to deal with servlet's so
I'll go there. Ah Java Servlet Technology Let's goto Product Info.
Nothing again.
My whole point? Java.sun.com is a tangled mess. Of course you can use
the messy search tool. So was pointing him to java.sun.com any help?
Sure you did the patented RTFM routine. You just forgot to mention which
manual :-).
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Joseph B. Ottinger wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Walter Landman wrote:
>
> > Dear asshole,
>
> Yes?
>
> > We were all beginners one day.
>
> Yes, for one day I was a beginner. Then I learned. :)
>
> > I remember pulling my hair out for 2 hours wondering why this doesn't
> > work..
> >
> > java HelloWorld.class
>
> Ah, you didn't read, did you?
>
> > I am sure some people on this list might find your questions to be stupid
> > and idiotic. Why point the main at java.sun.com? Or tell him to buy a
> > book?
>
> Yeah, pointing him at java.sun.com would imply that you're giving him
> something (accurate) to read, and what would be the point of that?
>
> > What I would recommend is http://www.orionserver.com/taglibtut/
> >
> > Your Dear Dummy e-mail sounded something like I would send cause i'm an
> > idiot. But that doesn't give you any excuse.
>
> Yeah, Magnus' tutorial is quite good - and very popular, deservedly
> so. (Do I get a Toaster, Magnus?) However... the *canonical* place to
> start is still java.sun.com, so since I'm in a nitpicky, asshole-ish mood
> spurred on by people saying "be kind to people who won't look at the basic
> rudiments of what they're trying to use," I'd still point to sun as the
> starting point.
>
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