I should mention that I'm specifically trying to perform file operations 
within a workspace using global pipeline libraries. I'm not following how a 
global pipeline library would even make sense if it can only run on master 
- am I missing something here?

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-5, bbyjenkns wrote:
>
> FYI AntBuilder is not going to work because it is running on the master 
>> not on the build agent...
>
>
> So, using java.nio.file.Files for example wouldn't work to copy files on 
> any nodes other than master? How do you do any file operations inside a 
> workspace on a slave otherwise? Do you have to shell out and cp everything? 
> If that's the case, how do you properly handle errors etc?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>> On 2 August 2017 at 08:14, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok - understood. That does clear some things up. Where can I find more 
>>> info on what is and is not allowed in global pipelines libraries? I'm 
>>> writing one now, and have defaulted to using the 'sh' step and returning 
>>> status codes to do most every file operation because what I try to do in 
>>> base groovy just does not work (using AntBuilder to copy directories for 
>>> example).
>>>
>>
>> FYI AntBuilder is not going to work because it is running on the master 
>> not on the build agent...
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 9:46:18 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2 August 2017 at 06:10, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm struggling with the same thing - doc is very light or wants you to 
>>>>> shell out for everything. I want to write groovy for everything, but it 
>>>>> seems like simple things, such as using AntBuilder for it's file 
>>>>> operation 
>>>>> magic is very difficult if not impossible. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Pipeline is *NOT* groovy.
>>>>
>>>> It is a CPS engine built on top of Groovy... it may look like Groovy, 
>>>> it may even sometimes walk and quack like Groovy, but your life will be 
>>>> infinitely better if you just accept that it is *NOT* Groovy.
>>>>
>>>> Global Shared Libraries is where you go if you want to write idiomatic 
>>>> Groovy, and even there you can hit issues unless you truly understand the 
>>>> CPS magic and its full implications.
>>>>
>>>> Use pipeline as a final orchestration glue layer and your life will be 
>>>> much easier
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:24:25 PM UTC-5, rcarruth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve read the “getting started with pipeline” pages (
>>>>>> https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/getting-started/).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve spent literally hours looking for something really helpful, in 
>>>>>> one place, for someone who wants to write CODE in the pipeline script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did just find https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax/, which 
>>>>>> is a great step in the direction I was looking for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, an update.  I’ve been searching around and gotten a lot 
>>>>>> further, but I want more, quicker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should mention that I’ve been a software developer for many years 
>>>>>> (oh, what, 40 or so?  C, C++ primarily, but a little Java), I teach a 
>>>>>> class 
>>>>>> called “Linux Operating System” at a community college (have been for 3 
>>>>>> years or so), I write scripts (bash, python, perl, etc) all the time, so 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> hope I have more than a small clue about ‘things’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that Jenkins World is coming soon to SF.  Perhaps that’s the 
>>>>>> best place to learn/etc…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s the deal.  I’m trying to Jenkins-ize our test infrastructure.  
>>>>>> Right now it is all done via shell scripts and ssh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it’s a monolith. You set your configuration for each test 
>>>>>> host (in a pretty big config file), start the run, and wait (up to more 
>>>>>> than a day! (sometimes multiple days)) for the test run to complete. 
>>>>>> When 
>>>>>> the test run completes, a script runs which generates a report, 
>>>>>> including 
>>>>>> of what tests ran, which of those that ran failed, and so forth (NOTE 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> just because a single test fails does NOT mean we want to kill the 
>>>>>> entire 
>>>>>> test run).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, yes – I should mention that the test run involves MULTIPLE test 
>>>>>> hosts, each running basically independently of each other.  Once a test 
>>>>>> host finishes its test run, it is available for another test run.  Every 
>>>>>> day we build our system and that triggers a full test run, as defined by 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> config file (which defines which hosts to run, and the test config file 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> use for that host – each host can have a different test configuration. 
>>>>>> Indeed, it can have a completely different product being tested).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To do a test run on a host, we first run some scripts on the server 
>>>>>> which sets up the global environment (we monitor serial port activity 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> store the output in a log file in the test report directory, for 
>>>>>> example), 
>>>>>> then we set up stuff on the test host (which starts out running Linux) 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> the test to come.  Right now, MOST of our tests are run under FreeDOS 
>>>>>> (don’t ask – we currently have no choice in that matter), then when 
>>>>>> those 
>>>>>> tests finish the host reboots into Linux, runs any Linux-based tests, 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> then runs ‘finish’, which copies the logs to the server, creates the 
>>>>>> test 
>>>>>> report, and emails it to a specified group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one thing, we’d like to have better visibility into the progress 
>>>>>> of the test (even possibly with partial results), and the ability to 
>>>>>> stop 
>>>>>> the testing at any stage in the process fairly easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I’m working on re-doing it all with Jenkins driving things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now I’ve got one pipeline which will use a config file to 
>>>>>> specify which test hosts (and configuration) to start running – its more 
>>>>>> or 
>>>>>> less done (reads config file, parses, does what it says).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve got another pipeline which runs the ‘setup global environment’ 
>>>>>> script, and which I’ve just proven works fine, as far as it goes.  No 
>>>>>> scripts AFTER that have been implemented…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m working on implementing the rest of the thing (both the ‘actually 
>>>>>> start the run’ part that happens after the global environment setup, and 
>>>>>> all the different stages.  Right now I’ve got a pipeline which parses 
>>>>>> another config file and runs the scripts specified (and their 
>>>>>> command-line 
>>>>>> args).  It kind of works too, but I’m thinking that the command-line 
>>>>>> args 
>>>>>> are way too unfriendly for ‘normal’ users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I’m halfway competent (which means at least 50% INcompetent!), 
>>>>>> but feel like if I knew a bit more I’d not rush down a path that I’ll 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>> to redo later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any good documents to help me move more into the competent 
>>>>>> phase?  As I asked above, is Jenkins World the best place (bang for 
>>>>>> buck)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
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>>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>> On 2 August 2017 at 08:14, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok - understood. That does clear some things up. Where can I find more 
>>> info on what is and is not allowed in global pipelines libraries? I'm 
>>> writing one now, and have defaulted to using the 'sh' step and returning 
>>> status codes to do most every file operation because what I try to do in 
>>> base groovy just does not work (using AntBuilder to copy directories for 
>>> example).
>>>
>>
>> FYI AntBuilder is not going to work because it is running on the master 
>> not on the build agent...
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 9:46:18 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2 August 2017 at 06:10, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm struggling with the same thing - doc is very light or wants you to 
>>>>> shell out for everything. I want to write groovy for everything, but it 
>>>>> seems like simple things, such as using AntBuilder for it's file 
>>>>> operation 
>>>>> magic is very difficult if not impossible. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Pipeline is *NOT* groovy.
>>>>
>>>> It is a CPS engine built on top of Groovy... it may look like Groovy, 
>>>> it may even sometimes walk and quack like Groovy, but your life will be 
>>>> infinitely better if you just accept that it is *NOT* Groovy.
>>>>
>>>> Global Shared Libraries is where you go if you want to write idiomatic 
>>>> Groovy, and even there you can hit issues unless you truly understand the 
>>>> CPS magic and its full implications.
>>>>
>>>> Use pipeline as a final orchestration glue layer and your life will be 
>>>> much easier
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:24:25 PM UTC-5, rcarruth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve read the “getting started with pipeline” pages (
>>>>>> https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/getting-started/).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve spent literally hours looking for something really helpful, in 
>>>>>> one place, for someone who wants to write CODE in the pipeline script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did just find https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax/, which 
>>>>>> is a great step in the direction I was looking for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, an update.  I’ve been searching around and gotten a lot 
>>>>>> further, but I want more, quicker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should mention that I’ve been a software developer for many years 
>>>>>> (oh, what, 40 or so?  C, C++ primarily, but a little Java), I teach a 
>>>>>> class 
>>>>>> called “Linux Operating System” at a community college (have been for 3 
>>>>>> years or so), I write scripts (bash, python, perl, etc) all the time, so 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> hope I have more than a small clue about ‘things’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that Jenkins World is coming soon to SF.  Perhaps that’s the 
>>>>>> best place to learn/etc…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s the deal.  I’m trying to Jenkins-ize our test infrastructure.  
>>>>>> Right now it is all done via shell scripts and ssh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it’s a monolith. You set your configuration for each test 
>>>>>> host (in a pretty big config file), start the run, and wait (up to more 
>>>>>> than a day! (sometimes multiple days)) for the test run to complete. 
>>>>>> When 
>>>>>> the test run completes, a script runs which generates a report, 
>>>>>> including 
>>>>>> of what tests ran, which of those that ran failed, and so forth (NOTE 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> just because a single test fails does NOT mean we want to kill the 
>>>>>> entire 
>>>>>> test run).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, yes – I should mention that the test run involves MULTIPLE test 
>>>>>> hosts, each running basically independently of each other.  Once a test 
>>>>>> host finishes its test run, it is available for another test run.  Every 
>>>>>> day we build our system and that triggers a full test run, as defined by 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> config file (which defines which hosts to run, and the test config file 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> use for that host – each host can have a different test configuration. 
>>>>>> Indeed, it can have a completely different product being tested).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To do a test run on a host, we first run some scripts on the server 
>>>>>> which sets up the global environment (we monitor serial port activity 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> store the output in a log file in the test report directory, for 
>>>>>> example), 
>>>>>> then we set up stuff on the test host (which starts out running Linux) 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> the test to come.  Right now, MOST of our tests are run under FreeDOS 
>>>>>> (don’t ask – we currently have no choice in that matter), then when 
>>>>>> those 
>>>>>> tests finish the host reboots into Linux, runs any Linux-based tests, 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> then runs ‘finish’, which copies the logs to the server, creates the 
>>>>>> test 
>>>>>> report, and emails it to a specified group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one thing, we’d like to have better visibility into the progress 
>>>>>> of the test (even possibly with partial results), and the ability to 
>>>>>> stop 
>>>>>> the testing at any stage in the process fairly easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I’m working on re-doing it all with Jenkins driving things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now I’ve got one pipeline which will use a config file to 
>>>>>> specify which test hosts (and configuration) to start running – its more 
>>>>>> or 
>>>>>> less done (reads config file, parses, does what it says).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve got another pipeline which runs the ‘setup global environment’ 
>>>>>> script, and which I’ve just proven works fine, as far as it goes.  No 
>>>>>> scripts AFTER that have been implemented…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m working on implementing the rest of the thing (both the ‘actually 
>>>>>> start the run’ part that happens after the global environment setup, and 
>>>>>> all the different stages.  Right now I’ve got a pipeline which parses 
>>>>>> another config file and runs the scripts specified (and their 
>>>>>> command-line 
>>>>>> args).  It kind of works too, but I’m thinking that the command-line 
>>>>>> args 
>>>>>> are way too unfriendly for ‘normal’ users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I’m halfway competent (which means at least 50% INcompetent!), 
>>>>>> but feel like if I knew a bit more I’d not rush down a path that I’ll 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>> to redo later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any good documents to help me move more into the competent 
>>>>>> phase?  As I asked above, is Jenkins World the best place (bang for 
>>>>>> buck)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
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>>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>> On 2 August 2017 at 08:14, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok - understood. That does clear some things up. Where can I find more 
>>> info on what is and is not allowed in global pipelines libraries? I'm 
>>> writing one now, and have defaulted to using the 'sh' step and returning 
>>> status codes to do most every file operation because what I try to do in 
>>> base groovy just does not work (using AntBuilder to copy directories for 
>>> example).
>>>
>>
>> FYI AntBuilder is not going to work because it is running on the master 
>> not on the build agent...
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 9:46:18 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2 August 2017 at 06:10, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm struggling with the same thing - doc is very light or wants you to 
>>>>> shell out for everything. I want to write groovy for everything, but it 
>>>>> seems like simple things, such as using AntBuilder for it's file 
>>>>> operation 
>>>>> magic is very difficult if not impossible. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Pipeline is *NOT* groovy.
>>>>
>>>> It is a CPS engine built on top of Groovy... it may look like Groovy, 
>>>> it may even sometimes walk and quack like Groovy, but your life will be 
>>>> infinitely better if you just accept that it is *NOT* Groovy.
>>>>
>>>> Global Shared Libraries is where you go if you want to write idiomatic 
>>>> Groovy, and even there you can hit issues unless you truly understand the 
>>>> CPS magic and its full implications.
>>>>
>>>> Use pipeline as a final orchestration glue layer and your life will be 
>>>> much easier
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:24:25 PM UTC-5, rcarruth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve read the “getting started with pipeline” pages (
>>>>>> https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/getting-started/).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve spent literally hours looking for something really helpful, in 
>>>>>> one place, for someone who wants to write CODE in the pipeline script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did just find https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/syntax/, which 
>>>>>> is a great step in the direction I was looking for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, an update.  I’ve been searching around and gotten a lot 
>>>>>> further, but I want more, quicker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should mention that I’ve been a software developer for many years 
>>>>>> (oh, what, 40 or so?  C, C++ primarily, but a little Java), I teach a 
>>>>>> class 
>>>>>> called “Linux Operating System” at a community college (have been for 3 
>>>>>> years or so), I write scripts (bash, python, perl, etc) all the time, so 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> hope I have more than a small clue about ‘things’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that Jenkins World is coming soon to SF.  Perhaps that’s the 
>>>>>> best place to learn/etc…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s the deal.  I’m trying to Jenkins-ize our test infrastructure.  
>>>>>> Right now it is all done via shell scripts and ssh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it’s a monolith. You set your configuration for each test 
>>>>>> host (in a pretty big config file), start the run, and wait (up to more 
>>>>>> than a day! (sometimes multiple days)) for the test run to complete. 
>>>>>> When 
>>>>>> the test run completes, a script runs which generates a report, 
>>>>>> including 
>>>>>> of what tests ran, which of those that ran failed, and so forth (NOTE 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> just because a single test fails does NOT mean we want to kill the 
>>>>>> entire 
>>>>>> test run).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, yes – I should mention that the test run involves MULTIPLE test 
>>>>>> hosts, each running basically independently of each other.  Once a test 
>>>>>> host finishes its test run, it is available for another test run.  Every 
>>>>>> day we build our system and that triggers a full test run, as defined by 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> config file (which defines which hosts to run, and the test config file 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> use for that host – each host can have a different test configuration. 
>>>>>> Indeed, it can have a completely different product being tested).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To do a test run on a host, we first run some scripts on the server 
>>>>>> which sets up the global environment (we monitor serial port activity 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> store the output in a log file in the test report directory, for 
>>>>>> example), 
>>>>>> then we set up stuff on the test host (which starts out running Linux) 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> the test to come.  Right now, MOST of our tests are run under FreeDOS 
>>>>>> (don’t ask – we currently have no choice in that matter), then when 
>>>>>> those 
>>>>>> tests finish the host reboots into Linux, runs any Linux-based tests, 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> then runs ‘finish’, which copies the logs to the server, creates the 
>>>>>> test 
>>>>>> report, and emails it to a specified group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one thing, we’d like to have better visibility into the progress 
>>>>>> of the test (even possibly with partial results), and the ability to 
>>>>>> stop 
>>>>>> the testing at any stage in the process fairly easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I’m working on re-doing it all with Jenkins driving things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now I’ve got one pipeline which will use a config file to 
>>>>>> specify which test hosts (and configuration) to start running – its more 
>>>>>> or 
>>>>>> less done (reads config file, parses, does what it says).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve got another pipeline which runs the ‘setup global environment’ 
>>>>>> script, and which I’ve just proven works fine, as far as it goes.  No 
>>>>>> scripts AFTER that have been implemented…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m working on implementing the rest of the thing (both the ‘actually 
>>>>>> start the run’ part that happens after the global environment setup, and 
>>>>>> all the different stages.  Right now I’ve got a pipeline which parses 
>>>>>> another config file and runs the scripts specified (and their 
>>>>>> command-line 
>>>>>> args).  It kind of works too, but I’m thinking that the command-line 
>>>>>> args 
>>>>>> are way too unfriendly for ‘normal’ users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I’m halfway competent (which means at least 50% INcompetent!), 
>>>>>> but feel like if I knew a bit more I’d not rush down a path that I’ll 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>> to redo later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any good documents to help me move more into the competent 
>>>>>> phase?  As I asked above, is Jenkins World the best place (bang for 
>>>>>> buck)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
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>>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>> On 2 August 2017 at 08:14, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok - understood. That does clear some things up. Where can I find more 
>>> info on what is and is not allowed in global pipelines libraries? I'm 
>>> writing one now, and have defaulted to using the 'sh' step and returning 
>>> status codes to do most every file operation because what I try to do in 
>>> base groovy just does not work (using AntBuilder to copy directories for 
>>> example).
>>>
>>
>> FYI AntBuilder is not going to work because it is running on the master 
>> not on the build agent...
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 9:46:18 AM UTC-5, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2 August 2017 at 06:10, bbyjenkns <mcj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm struggli
>>>>>
>>>>

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