Hi Ed,

I think the version of Emacs that I've been calling the A
version is actually the cygwin version of XEmacs. Thus,
the support in the JDEE for cygwin versions of Emacs is
actually geared to the cygwin version of XEmacs. This would
explain the difficulty that people are having with trying to use
the JDEE with the cygwin version of Emacs.

It's been a long time since I've dealt with this issue and
my memory is obviously fuzzy. Anyway, the bottom line is
the same. The current JDEE cygwin support was not designed
for the current cygwin version of Emacs and hence it would
not be surprising if it does not fully support it.

Paul



Paul Kinnucan writes:
 > Ed Mooney writes:
 >  > Now I'm confused. Is the version of emacs[1] you can install by running 
 >  > http://cygwin.com/setup.exe "A" or "B"? I had thought it was "A". If 
 >  > not, where can I get "A"?
 > 
 > Hi Ed,
 > 
 > I thought A was still available. My knowledge is very hazy
 > on cygwin as my own dealings with it were only to test out
 > changes to the JDEE intended to support it. Perhaps B
 > replaced A. Anyway, I believe A was developed before Cygwin
 > supported X Windows and thus included source changes to use
 > the native Windows GUI. I believe B was made possible by the
 > porting of X Windows to Cygwin. This enables Cygwin to
 > support a binary compiled directly from the Unix sources for
 > Emacs, without any Windows-specific modifications. I don't
 > know if the JDEE takes advantage of any A modifications that
 > are missing from the B version. It would help if anyone can
 > shed any light on this question as this would enable me to
 > determine how much work would be needed to enhance the JDEE
 > to support the B version.
 > 
 > Paul
 > 
 > 
 >  > 
 >  >    -- Ed
 >  > 
 >  > [1] E.g.: http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/release/emacs/
 >  > 
 >  > Jason Rumney wrote:
 >  > > Paul Kinnucan wrote:
 >  > > 
 >  > >> Hi Felix,
 >  > >>
 >  > >> As I understand it, there are two versions of "cygwin emacs":
 >  > >>
 >  > >>  (A) a version of Unix Emacs modified specifically to run in the      
 >  > >> Cygwin environment and
 >  > >>  (B) the standard Unix version of Emacs compiled, using cygwin
 >  > >>      gcc, to run in the Cygwin environment
 >  > >>
 >  > >>
 >  > >> JDEE supports the A version. It does not support the B
 >  > >> version.  The reason for this is that years ago, long
 >  > >> before the B-version existed, some JDEE users asked for A
 >  > >> version support and some of those users actually contributed
 >  > >> code necessary to support the A version. Meanwhile, until
 >  > >> now, there has been no demand for B-version support.
 >  > >>  
 >  > >>
 >  > > Really this is a cygwin problem. A cygwin version of Emacs needs to be 
 >  > > modified to fit its environment, as the 'A' version was. I'm not sure 
 >  > > what happened to those patches, but it is unreasonable of the Cygwin 
 >  > > maintainers to expect the maintainers of every other package to make 
 >  > > changes to accomodate Cygwin's lack of fitting in with its environment 
 >  > > so that they themselves can use unmodified code targetted at GNU/Linux.
 >  > > 
 >  > > 
 >  > 
 > 

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