(My bad ... this was part of the "filtering..." thread which
I accidentally started posting to grrltalk when the thread
was on issues.  That'll teach me to pay closer attention
to my headers!)

 > I don't want to upset him, he's much older than most
 > fathers of 30 year olds (79) so I don't like to make
 > him worry. ;-)

I have a similar age gap with my parents (I'm 33, mom
and dad are 78 and 79).  At the family's request, I
wrote a statement of beliefs, but kept it simple, in the
first person, and (as best I could) factual when
speaking of other belief systems.  I too think mom and
dad don't say much because they're happier believing
I'm just going through a phase.

 > Well, I look at it this way. If a person says something
 > once, and I refuse politely, and they drop it, I don't mind.
 > It's when I get drawn in to discussions for the soul
 > purpose of conversion that I mind.

Ditto.  It's the only problem I have with worship-me-or-die
religions.

 > Me, I like religious debate. I like political debate. Hell, I
 > just like debate period.

Then you're on the right list!

 > I can respect someone who is knowledgable about
 > what they believe in, and can debate you well. I have
 > trouble respecting someone who tells you 'because
 > that's the way it is' and leaves it at that. That goes with
 > politics, religion, OS choice, etc ;-)

Ditto again.  How do you (addressing the list collectively
here ... not just Amy) deal with "Well, just because" or
"You're factually wrong or not entitled to your beliefs
because your facts/beliefs clash with mine [not because
I have any rational evidence]" arguments?

- Mary; who finds herself drawn into a lot of "Convert,
damn heathen!" debates.

"Homophobia (n): Insecurity about being heterosexual."
         - saw it on a t-shirt





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