J B wrote:
> 
> >>The question is this: To what degree should society as a whole a) take
> >>responsibility for and b) be allowed to interfere in the raising of
> >>peoples children.
> 
> When did it become society's responsibility to take care of everybodies
> childrens.  IMHO (and yes, I know it is callous), but if parents are not
> able to take care of their kids, they should not be allowed to ever have
> kids.  It is not my responsibility to a)provide for b)discipline c)listen to
> or deal with kids that the parents are not willing to take an active part in
> making sure that the children grow up to be a productive part of society.  I
> have to wonder if this movement that outlawed corporal punishment in the
> schools and the parents that believe that children should never be spanked
> have ever thought about the fact that we did not have many of the problems
> that are evident in schools nowadays

What problems do you think we have in schools nowadays that were
not in the good old days?  I was reading some old newspapers when
I lived in West Virginia.  An 11 yo stabbed a classmate to death
near the turn of the previous century.  In Laura Ingalls Wilder's
book based on her husband's life, Farmer Boy, a teacher is killed
by being beaten by students.  When I went to visit my grandmother
last weekend, she told of a beating that my great-grandfather has
sustained in fifth grade at the hands of other students which
caused him a lifelong disability.

You would have a point if you could prove that most (any) of the
poster children for The Way These Kids Are Today grew up in homes
that were non-violent.  I don't think that is true.

I wonder what any of this post (or the originating post) has to
do with linux or women in computing.

Annette


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