I must say that I find the whole 'hacker scene' to be quite funny. There is nothing funnier than an annoying teenage boy trying to be the most arrogant in the room. If I wanted to learn something I'd go somewhere else, or start my own IRC chat room and advertise it as 'non-harassment'... Why open yourself up to that? ~ wirren _______________________________________________ issues mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/issues