I wish the start menu would work the same way, in such case (create a standard for those chevron thingeys)... if you use certain groups more often, move them to the top. It'd be somewhat irritating until it figured out your patterns of usage (and if different people use your computer for different things). Can you turn off the icon "moving" thing? I'd imagine if it were truly customizable you would be able to... but you never know, sometimes microsoft (and other software vendors) thinks things are "intuitive" but they are just plain annoying (i.e. the paper clip). ____________________________________________________- In office 2K...the "office assistant" is much better than in 97. He just takes some getting used to. In Win2K...the Start menu is the same as in Office....it adapts. It is really kinda neat. Makes the OS much more user friendly, and much less cluttered. The apps you use most are right there...but if you need another, click and up they pop. M$ has finally started listening to the SysAdmins and the Users, and is implementing some of our suggestions and fixing some of our gripes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ************ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org