curious wrote: > Greetings, > > Hello, my name is curious... this wonderful mailinglist was > introduced to me by Vinnie Surmone... so if there any referal bonuses > please aply them accordingly. > > Early observations... there seems to be alot of knee jerking on > here.. If someone says something you disagree with it's best to understand > where they are comming from before you do ANY talking... especialy if you > have any intentions of shapping thier views. Just because someone > questions screenshots somewhere doesn't mean they are advocating > censorship. If you kneejerk a response all your going to do is cause a > flame war since no real conversaion or consideration happens... and the > list begins to deteriorate into a mess... (this is a BAD thing)... Also > labling people, ideas... breeds sterio(sic) types... which tend to lead > deeply into misunderstandings and communications.. > > An idea for either enhancement on this mailinglist or a possible > future list would be to have the use of the list licensed.. ie. to use the > list you must agree to atempt to fully understand where the other person > is comming from... and not to lable anyone in the list.... > > Even though Vinnie introduced me to this list... you'll find there > are areas where she and I don't see eye to eye at all... though we each > have strong respect (well at least I know I have strong respect for > her's) for each other's views and constantly strive to seek > out what/why the other belives what they belive.. > > In forums like this... I belive having people that truly seek to > understand leads to the most succesful (interms of entertainment, > knowledge, and experince) list... > > I'll proly wait till some of the flames die down on here before I > bring up issues I would realy like some input on... don't try to judge > me... for I would never claim to judge you. > > I suppose I should put up some statement as to who I am... but > I'll just point to my website listed below.. and perhaps add more data > laterz.... > > Hugs to those that want one, > Peace be with all of you, > Curious > > PS if you made it this far you deserve a cookie.... sorry I'm all out :( > > > /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.curious.org/ > / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail "This quote is false." -anon > > ************ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org I guess emotionally I sort of agree and not. It would be a good idea if people didn't jump to conclusions in any direction. Note, some of that is somewhat understandable. When a Christian Preacher starts talking about how we treat our kitty cats and doggies, well then one guesses often correctly the pro-life anit-abortion lecture is not far behind. AS fara s licensing goes, in your usee of the term, well I don't know. Two or Three simple house roles seem to be enough. Also I guess I get the creeps out of creeping legalismm, especially used in non-legal areas. But if that is what makes people feel comfortable it's worthwhile to think about. I dunno if it works in the net environment, In general what flame wars do is make me hold back on broaching any more controversial topics. Like when being a sysadmin or co-sysadmin of a variety of things, the unoffical rule was we never called "express your opinions" but don't get the legal system involved. It boiled down to unless, you are really certain something truly evil and rude is going on, don't bring the authorities into it, they only make a mess of things and lives. I supposed that was to use a legalisms or legal world views I previous disparaged:), well it was an unofficial sort of list of duties of system administrators, or kind of in the charter of "System Admins..." A few "cool it" messages were OK. But don't call the cops if one's "creep-o-meter" went off. As a person who by mere visual appearance sets off people's creep-o-meters then I am generally in support of such. The same way I don't feel people should have to change their nick or even their appearance to avoid srtting off people. I mean if it does no harm, then it isn't that bad. And it is oppressive to sort of try to force such things. And I would like to have a good discussion of "what images offend people..." and "Why?" and should we pay any attention to it. For example to conservative christians even dedicating a weird electronic musci album to "The Holy Ghost" is "disrespect".. . So far modulo (except for) the yelling, and the sort of popular questionable use of organismal biology in support of the status quo, it seems a strart been made. It seems a worthwhile question and would be double such if it were to take place in the context of why it bothers people (partialy done already), what messages doe it convey and in what context. In Santa Cruz, California noted for its proegreesive politics, girlie pix didn't appear in guess stations or even many bars. But it appear in liquor stores of various varities. All it meant is that you were intering one of those. Both male and female friends kind of ignored it. Now if they they were "Labeled BEER BITCH X" , "BEER BITCH Y..." then the reaction might have been different. But here in (Wild Not So wonderful West Virginia), especially in the Northen Panhadle it is used as a "male territory marked." Along with the still existent (sigh) dating ritual of "she get's to order the most expensive thing on the menu, the guy pays for her meal, and then sex is his sex partner." This is sometimes reffered to as "surf and turf date" some people thing as the song goes: "That's just the way it is, somethings will never change..." It does set my creepo meter off more than 16 year olds of either sex falling for 16 year olds of any other sex. or people of other ages." Have Fun, Sends Steve ************ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
