Valery has posted an updated ID, and I have put it in for a 3 week IETF
Last Call (based on the complexity of the draft).  Let us (authors, really)
if you have further comments.

Deb

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 6:41 PM Deb Cooley <debcool...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Because I basically sent the message twice (first time to a fictional
> IPSec wg list), the authors and I have worked out the answers on the first
> version of the message.  I think everything is pretty well sorted, I
> believe I'm just waiting for a new version so I can send it to IETF Last
> Call.  (changed to 'MUST NOT', and they explained the IANA situation, as
> well as the other comments).  Super prompt, and a nice exchange.
>
> Deb
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 7:46 AM Paul Wouters <p...@nohats.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> >
>> > On Nov 16, 2024, at 12:37, Tero Kivinen <kivi...@iki.fi> wrote:
>> >
>> > Deb Cooley writes:
>> >> Section 4.4.2:  Is there a circumstance where distributing both ESP
>> and AH
>> >> policies for the same set of Traffic Selectors would be sensible?  If
>> not,
>> >> should this be MUST NOT?
>> >
>> > I think this is aligning with the Cryptographic Algorithm
>> > Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for ESP and AH RFC8221
>> > which says:
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > 4.  Encryption Must Be Authenticated
>> > ...
>> >   The last method that can be used is ESP+AH.  This method is NOT
>> >   RECOMMENDED.  It is the slowest method and also takes up more octets
>>
>> It was NOT RECOMMENDED instead of MUST NOT because some old versions of
>> raccoon did this by default. For group ike, I see no reason for to repeat
>> this and MUST NOT is fine?
>>
>> Paul
>
>
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