Hi Yoav,

  Thanks for facilitating this discussion (especially given the editor's issues with interacting with me). Yes, the unaddressed points are in the 3rd email. Everything above the "there is another IKEv1 feature not available in IKEv2" line are my unresolved comments, everything below that is further discussed in the final 2 emails
and is not relevant to the comments I made on the draft.

  Basically, I want to get rid of the speculative language and the guesswork language which is  not really even necessary to make the case. I also provided 2 reworded paragraphs which I think improve the draft and are more clear. Of course, that's my opinion, it's open to debate and disagreement, but if others agree with me then I
think these changes should be adopted by the editor.

  regards,

  Dan.

On 6/27/21 11:32 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
To facilitate this discussion:

The comments are in this message: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/oO5Gcb6vwFVRK9mhQSrmSu75Ou4/

Paul repled with this: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/crENax8kcWhoY8aIH__FflP8s2w/

Dan replied with this: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/bCVFtBLCbNgI4_2OalYkiD3cEYY/

Tero: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/ke9Xesu8gcV0zBHxsXKHBILxIM4/

And finally, Dan: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/QsR0qMNBo2s35dDgwIE-AcKaqxQ/

If I read this correctly, the last two messages are about some of decision-making process in IKEv2 drafts, so it’s not relevant to the draft now in WGLC.

Can I assume the unaddressed points are those in the third message?

Yoav

On 27 Jun 2021, at 10:27, Dan Harkins <dhark...@lounge.org <mailto:dhark...@lounge.org>> wrote:


  I sent substantive comments on this draft to the list on May 6th of this
year. They were not addressed so they apply to this WGLC.

  Dan.

On 6/26/21 1:38 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
Hi, all.

Although this draft is really new, having been submitted in April of this year, its predecessor draft has been under discussion since March of 2019.

This begins a 2-week WGLC. Please read the draft and post comments to the list. Since this is rather new, short messages in the vein of “Yeah, this is good. Ship it”, but substantive comments are, of course, even more welcome.

The WGLC ends at EOD (for me) July 12th, just a week before the IETF meeting.

Thanks

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