On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 04:22:15PM +0300, Tero Kivinen wrote:
> Steffen Klassert writes:
> > 
> > A secret salt in the nonce would be a new requirement anyway.
> > I've checked RFC 4106 (ESP for GCM) and RFC 7634 (ESP for
> > ChaCha20-Poly1305), both don't require a secret salt.
> 
> It is true that they do not need secret salt, but they do have
> unpredictable salt, which is created by the key derivation step. My
> understanding was that this proposal did get rid of that salt too:

Yes, this proposal removes the unpredictable salt. I did not say it
explicitely, but that was part of my critism on how they create
the IV in my original mail.

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