Actually I'm suggesting to drop it altogether.

Thanks,
        Yaron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grewal, Ken [mailto:ken.gre...@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 20:43
> To: Yaron Sheffer; ipsec@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Issue #93: Next header value in tunnel mode for WESP
> 
> Hi Yaron,
> I am inclined to agree, but wanted to raise this as an option as it was
> raised during conversations at the last meeting.
> 
> Are you indicating that we should set this field to be the same value as
> in
> the ESP trailer, irrespective of tunnel / transport mode?
> 
> Thanks,
> - Ken
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yar...@checkpoint.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 6:52 AM
> >To: Grewal, Ken; ipsec@ietf.org
> >Subject: RE: Issue #93: Next header value in tunnel mode for WESP
> >
> >Hi Ken,
> >
> >It seems to me this field is more trouble than it's worth. We are
> assuming
> >that the hardware will be enforcing a very simplistic security policy
> >(don't
> >care if it's Tunnel or Transport, don't care if it's a TCP SYN or not
> etc.)
> >and that the hardware is unable to perform anything more than extremely
> >basic packet parsing. Both assumptions may well be incorrect. And the
> cost
> >is in complicating the protocol and the endpoint implementations.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >     Yaron
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Grewal, Ken
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 23:39
> >> To: ipsec@ietf.org
> >> Subject: [IPsec] Issue #93: Next header value in tunnel mode for WESP
> >>
> >> All,
> >> As we prepare to submit the next revision of the WESP draft, we wanted
> to
> >> get some discussion / feedback on some open ticket items.
> >>
> >> Issue #93: Next Header field to provide the value for the tunneled
> packet
> >> if
> >> using tunnel mode
> >>
> >> In the current traffic visibility draft, we indicate that the next
> header
> >> value in the WESP header is equal to the next header value in the ESP
> >> trailer.
> >> Charlie Kaufman suggested that middle boxes may not want to
> differentiate
> >> between tunnel / transport mode and just get to the payload.
> >> i.e. consider providing the tunneled protocol value in WESP next header
> >> field in the
> >> case of tunnel mode and the WESP offset points to the tunneled payload
> >>
> >> Pros: easier parsing for intermediary devices
> >> Cons: lose consistency between next header in WESP and in ESP trailer -
> >> any
> >> security concerns?
> >>
> >> Comments / opinions appreciated...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> - Ken
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