Hi Matt,

Let me re-phrase my questions:
1. If there is no TSi and TSr payload in IKE_AUTH exchange, whether we go
ahead and process IKE_AUTH payloads or not ?
2. Appendix C: IKE_AUTH: Error in CHILD SA creation. It will come into
picture if we process the packet.
    If we go ahead and process the packet, according to appendix C, we
SHOULD/MUST establish the IKE SA ?
    Looks like, if we go ahead to process the IKE_AUTH packet with no TSi
and TSr, we can establish the IKEv2 SA.

I request more experts to comment.

Thanks for your reply.

Regards,
Raj

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Matthew Cini Sarreo <mci...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Raj,
>
> According to Appendix C, for IKE_AUTH:
>
>    error in Child SA  <--  IDr, [CERT+],
>    creation                AUTH,
>                               N(error),
>                               [V+]
>
> So sending an authenticated and encrypted INVALID_SYNTAX notification over
> the IKE_SA that has just been authenticated seems to be correct.
>
> Regards,
> Matt
>
>
>>
>> 2009/4/22 raj singh <rsjen...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> There is possibility of just IKEv2 SA gets established during IKE_AUTH
>>> and IPsec SA getting established via CREATE_CHILD_SA.
>>> The question is what behavior RFC mandate ? What you think ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Raj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Cini Sarreo 
>>> <mci...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> In IKE_AUTH TSi and TSr are mandatory, so it is not possible to omit
>>>> them from an authentication exchange message, as there would be no way for
>>>> the SA to know what traffic should be forwarded through the SA.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the correct error message would be INVALID_SYNTAX. This
>>>> would require the message ID and the checksum to be valid. Note that this
>>>> has (may only) be sent in an encrypted response.
>>>>
>>>> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2009/4/22 raj singh <rsjen...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the expected behavior if as a responder we do not receive TSi
>>>>>> and TSr in IKE_AUTH exchange ?
>>>>>> Shall we go ahead and establish IKEv2 SA ? If yes, shall we send out
>>>>>> TSi and TSr ?
>>>>>> Or we should reject the packet ?
>>>>>> If we reject the packet during packet validation with doing ID and
>>>>>> AUTH payload processing, what ERROR should be send ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Raj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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