I had some serious distrust of github, and I still feel like it is way too easy for projects to languish into oblivion on sites like that (see sourceforge for example.)
Some of the folks on the ioquake3 IRC channel and elsewhere had been trying to convince me every so often for a long time now to move it to github. I was finally convinced by Timbo that it was time to do it and so we did. eviljoel has done some tremendous work in fixing the issues that the gitorious installation at git.iodoom.org had, but it remains a very flawed system that is taking time which would be better spent elsewhere. iodoom3's overall lack of progress is entirely my fault and I apologize for that. I created my own little sourceforge with gitorious and moving iodoom3 off of it makes sense when I have the time/balls to actually apply patches and run it properly. This seems unlikely with dhewm3 already existing as you point out, but I don't think I'd completely give up hope on the idea either. On Jan 8, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Daniel Gibson <metalcae...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think github is a very good choice. > It works (in contrast to gitorious) and is really fun to use. > > I think the usual objections against cloud-based services don't apply here: > * they can't steal source/intellectual property because it's open source > anyway. > * a vendor-lock-in or something like that isn't really an issue either: > everyone who clones the repo has the whole history etc, so even if github > suddenly wants money or goes out of business it's easy to set up something > like gitorious again with a clone of the git repo. > > This would probably make sense for iodoom3 as well, even though I'm not sure > it would help very much.. the interest in the doom3 GPL code seems to be > quite low (same for d3 bfg) and with dhewm3 there already is a working port.. > so no one will want to start again from the beginning, even though some > people seem to be unhappy with dhewm3.. > > Cheers, > - Daniel > > Am 08.01.2013 04:50, schrieb eviljoel: >> Hi, >> >> Eh, finally replying to e-mails. Was an online hermit for the last few days. >> >> I totally agree with moving to git and have no objection with GitHub. >> But the one part of the question you didn't answer is that Zakk had >> some reason for moving Doom3 from GitHub in the first place. Maybe he >> didn't like a big corporation controlling his repositories or >> something like that??? I guess what I want to know is what his >> problem was with GitHub and what made him change his mind. >> >> And I guess you are right, I am mostly curious about this because of >> ioDoom3. I don't want to put in a lot of time improving the server if >> we are just going to move to GitHub soon anyway. I guess I'll ask >> Zakk about that one-on-one. (Plus this is the wrong list for that.) >> >> Thanks for your input Ryan. >> >> Laters, >> eviljoel >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ryan C. Gordon<iccu...@icculus.org> wrote: >>> >>>> There was also the whole Mercurial debate not too long ago. >>> >>> >>> The consensus was that I liked Mercurial, and everyone else liked git. :) >>> >>> Moving off svn is a no-brainer in 2013...it's old and busted. Git is fine, >>> and my experience is that most people don't want just a git repo, they >>> specifically want GitHub (and those that don't want GitHub...hey, you still >>> get a standard git repo from it!). >>> >>> Also: this is where id software has their canonical repos for their open >>> source releases, now, too. >>> >>> Also: as I'm sure you've discovered recently, keeping Gitorious running is a >>> big pain in the ass. :) I don't know what zakk wants to do with iodoom3, >>> but if we're going to make a switch for ioquake3, we might as well go to a >>> nice infrastructure that someone else keeps up and running for us. >>> >>> --ryan. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ioquake3 mailing list >>> ioquake3@lists.ioquake.org >>> http://lists.ioquake.org/listinfo.cgi/ioquake3-ioquake.org >>> By sending this message I agree to love ioquake3 and libsdl. >> _______________________________________________ >> ioquake3 mailing list >> ioquake3@lists.ioquake.org >> http://lists.ioquake.org/listinfo.cgi/ioquake3-ioquake.org >> By sending this message I agree to love ioquake3 and libsdl. > > _______________________________________________ > ioquake3 mailing list > ioquake3@lists.ioquake.org > http://lists.ioquake.org/listinfo.cgi/ioquake3-ioquake.org > By sending this message I agree to love ioquake3 and libsdl. _______________________________________________ ioquake3 mailing list ioquake3@lists.ioquake.org http://lists.ioquake.org/listinfo.cgi/ioquake3-ioquake.org By sending this message I agree to love ioquake3 and libsdl.
