On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:39 PM Alice Wonder <al...@librelamp.com> wrote:
> On 06/23/2018 03:11 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: p...@golemon.com [mailto:p...@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara > >> Golemon > >> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 1:07 AM > >> To: Nikita Popov <nikita....@gmail.com> > >> Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net> > >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 next? > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Nikita Popov <nikita....@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> Based on some recent conversations, I'm getting the impression that > >>> after PHP 7.3, we might want to go for PHP 8 next. > >>> > >>> I'd like to discuss and possibility decide this now, as that would > >>> make PHP > >>> 7.3 the last chance to get in deprecations. > >>> > >> Would you mind elaborating on your motivations for a major version > bump. I'm > >> not saying I disagree in principle, I'm just curious what you're seeing > the drivers > >> as. > > > > This is slightly earlier than I intended to bring it up but I do too > think that the next version beyond 7.3 should be 8. > > I disagree. > > I'm mostly a user, not a PHP developer. > > RHEL 7.5, the latest version of RHEL, still ships 5.4. > > Other LTS distributions also probably ship 5.x. > > So a major version bump now would mean three major versions of PHP that > web applications intended to "just work" on enterprise *nix would have > to support. > > If there was a major design flaw in PHP that can only truly be fixed by > an incompatible version bump past 7 then do it but otherwise, I think it > would be better to wait until the most recent versions of enterprise > distributions have moved to php 7. > > I'm hoping RHEL 8 does, the benefits are tremendous of 7 over 6.x, but... > > The issue is some customers of enterprise linux specifically don't want > frankenstein systems and want to use vendor supported packages only, and > I can see their point of view because they pay a lot of money for that > support. > > That being said, I try to get everyone running old PHP up to 7.1 or 7.2 > even if it means frankenstein systems. But some think the benefit of > enterprise vendor support outweighs the improvements in PHP. > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/ <http://www.php.net/unsub.php> unsub.php <http://www.php.net/unsub.php> If we’re going to 8 can we please fix the ternary operator now??? > <http://www.php.net/unsub.php> > >
