"Ferenc Kovacs" wrote in message
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2016. szept. 9. 10:44 ezt írta ("Tony Marston" <tonymars...@hotmail.com>):
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:35 AM
>To: Tony Marston
>Cc: PHP Internals
>Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with
composer/pickle
>
>Please point out to me any words I have used which a reasonable person
would class as "abusive".
>
>"Incorrect. There is a web interface which I use EXCLUSIVELY to maintain
the contents of my PEAR library. Any proposed replacement which does not
have a web interface I'm afraid is totally unacceptable. Command line
interfaces went out of fashion when the Windows OS was first released, and
anyone who still insists on using one has not joined the rest of the world
in the 21st century."
Where are the words in that statement that a reasonable person would
describe as "abusive"?
You seem to think that any opinion which differs from yours is wrong, and
you try to dismiss that opinion by classing it as "abusive". I'm afraid this
lack of tolerance for different opinions is becoming more and more prevalent
in this forum, and I fear it will have a detrimental effect on the whole PHP
ecosystem.
I repeat, show me any personal insults in what I wrote. All I see are
“fair comments”.
>you inject your subjective opinion/anecdotal evidence as an objective
fact
Just like everyone else who says "nobody I know uses such-and-such feature,
so we should remove it"
and trying to kill the discussion instead of contributing to it.
Oh, I see. I am only allowed to comment on an RFC if I am for it? Who
elected you as emperor?
<snip>
>
>"Just because SOME people still like using a command line interface does
not mean that they can force everyone else to use it. If any piece of 21st
century does not come with a web/GUI interface it just shows that the
author is still living in the past and is incapable of serving the needs of
today's users."
>first you are arguing in bad faith (eg. that anybody/everybody here is
trying to sabotage those who would prefer a gui over a command line), then
you start namecalling
Where is this "namecalling"? Where are the instances of "idiot" or "moron"?
those who would prefer command line over gui (which
is btw. plain wrong in the age of configuration management and immutable
deployment where being able to have automated and reproducible deployments
is a key)
I repeat, show me any personal insults in what I wrote. All I see are
“fair comments”.
--
Tony Marston
Your original request was "Please point out to me any words I have used
which a reasonable person would class as "abusive".",
now you are moving the goalpost to personal insults (which for the record
Where is the personal insult in what I wrote? Where did I write "you are an
idiot" or "you are a moron"?
still happened when calling people living in the past and such for using
cli tools), which again shows that you are arguing in bad faith.
That is a valid opinion. Consider the fact that the Windows operating system
was only accepted by large numbers of users as it had a "modern" GUI and not
a command line interface. You try and release a new piece of software to
users that does not have a GUI or web interface and they will ignore it in
droves. Just because SOME people like CLI does not give them the right to
force it upon the rest of the world. Most users are much happier with a GUI
than CLI, so not providing a "modern" interface is showing disrespect to
those users.
--
Tony Marston
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