2016. szept. 9. 10:44 ezt írta ("Tony Marston" <tonymars...@hotmail.com>):
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:35 AM
> >To: Tony Marston
> >Cc: PHP Internals
> >Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with
composer/pickle
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >"Michael Morris" wrote in message
news:CAEUnE0dfjJ02g2Rhkp9WvnkSXpoLzjK=tmivdbsucccgxw2...@mail.gmail.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >Typical. You create a useful tool, get your users hooked, then walk away
> >and leave them dangling.
> >
> >No one owes you anything. You aren't entitled to get free updates to a
free
> >tool. If the author wants to move onto other projects, that's their
> >prerogative. Stop with the bombastic and abusive tone towards everyone,
> >particularly the developers, on this list.
> >
> >Please point out to me any words I have used which a reasonable person
would class as "abusive".
> >
> >"Incorrect. There is a web interface which I use EXCLUSIVELY to maintain
the contents of my PEAR library. Any proposed replacement which does not
have a web interface I'm afraid is totally unacceptable. Command line
interfaces went out of fashion when the Windows OS was first released, and
anyone who still insists on using one has not joined the rest of the world
in the 21st century."
>
> I repeat, show me any personal insults in what I wrote. All I see are
“fair comments”.
>
> >you inject your subjective opinion/anecdotal evidence as an objective
fact and trying to kill the discussion instead of contributing to it.
> >as you mentioned there is a pear package which provides a web interface
for managing pear packages, but that isn't part of the pear core and hence
not bundled by the php project atm, so I don't think that it is a valid
argument for requiring to bundle a gui interface for composer. if people
need a web interface there will be a web interface (maybe there is one
already: https://github.com/composer-ui/composer-ui ) which they can
install via composer.
> >
> >"Just because SOME people still like using a command line interface does
not mean that they can force everyone else to use it. If any piece of 21st
century does not come with a web/GUI interface it just shows that the
author is still living in the past and is incapable of serving the needs of
today's users."
>
> >first you are arguing in bad faith (eg. that anybody/everybody here is
trying to sabotage those who would prefer a gui over a command line), then
you start namecalling those who would prefer command line over gui (which
is btw. plain wrong in the age of configuration management and immutable
deployment where being able to have automated and reproducible deployments
is a key)
>
> I repeat, show me any personal insults in what I wrote. All I see are
“fair comments”.
>
> --
> Tony Marston
>
Your original request was "Please point out to me any words I have used
which a reasonable person would class as "abusive".",
now you are moving the goalpost to personal insults (which for the record
still happened when calling people living in the past and such for using
cli tools), which again shows that you are arguing in bad faith.
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