Hi Zeev, > -----Original Message----- > From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:z...@zend.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 1:09 PM > To: Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net> > Cc: Sebastian Bergmann <sebast...@php.net>; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > > My red wine is already cooling for two days, your preferential drink > > for sure, too. The moment is big. But how human it wants ever to be, > > it is hardly applicable to the the job of delivering a release, even > > today. We should not let us to hype but do a solid delivery with > > everything that belongs to it at the current time. Acting any other > > way can get dangerous in the technical perspective and specifically > > today it would be explicitly unfair to a part of the community. Both > > things are bad. That's why I would prefer rather to keep the heads > > cold and to follow the process that is proven to deliver successful > > releases, then we can be sure others have a real reason to overhype. > > Anatol, > > I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with professionalism or coolness of wine > nor heads, and to be perfectly honest, I'm not feeling very comfortable with > the > suggestion otherwise. Your choice, while completely valid, is not an ounce > more > professional or cool headed than the alternative. > > What leads me to think your choice is wrong are two things: > 1. The fact that generally speaking, binary builds are not supposed to be a > blocker for a PHP release - which has always been about source (and should > continue being about source). > 2. Taking into to account that we don't live in a world of machines, but > humans. > Staying cool headed is not equal as ignoring thoughts and feelings of users. > > As an extra bonus, the issue itself is hardly the material of which delays are > supposed to be made. The official builds of PHP for the versions that's > likely to > be used by anybody who might actually be vulnerable to these issues - 5.6.16 > and 5.5.30 - contain this (non-critical) vulnerability and to the best of my > knowledge we're not going to be updating them. And if we are, what's blocking > us from doing the same with 7.0.0? > > Either way, I'm not going to continue convincing you. I'm not arguing it's > your > call. I was important for me to make it clear that this is not about > professionalism nor about temperature levels of any sorts. > What I just wanted to say by the temperature is that I'm as human as anyone else and hopefully allowed to hype not less than anyone else. However there are always people who celebrate and people who serve, those who serve have to keep the cold head. I'm serving, that's it. Hope this explains any possible mistaking on my words.
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