Hey:

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Xinchen Hui <xinche...@zend.com> wrote:
>> Hey:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Dmitry Stogov <dmi...@zend.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Recently, Xinchen and me worked on optimization that eliminates useless
>>>> reallocations and copying during string concatenation (ZEND_ADD_STRING and
>>>> family + ZEND_CONCAT).
>>>>
>>>> The idea comes from ropes, but adopted especially for our needs.
>>>> Rope is popular data structure in languages with immutable strings.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_%28data_structure%29
>>>>
>>>> We don't try to use ropes everywhere in the engine (at least it's too later
>>>> for 7.0), only for concatenation.
>>>>
>>>> The first branch uses ropes only instead of ZEND_ADD_STRING and family.
>>>> This must be safe. The only problem is possible memory leaks on exception
>>>> (but we already have this problem anyway). The simplest way to understand
>>>> the patch - read code for new opcodes in zend_vm_def.h.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1194/files
>>>>
>>>> The second branch in addition uses ropes for series of ZEND_CONCAT. It
>>>> disables calls to do_operation(ZEND_CONCAT) handler of custom internal
>>>> classes.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1195/files
>>>>
>>>> Both make slight speed improvement (first +0.3%, second +0.6% on wordpress
>>>> home page).
>>>>
>>>> We don't currently use ability to override CONCAT behavior in internal
>>>> classes, and I'm not sure if it may be useful at all. (For example Lua
>>>> doesn't provide concat meta-method). May be remove it?
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts and comments are welcome.
>>>
>>> Great work! :)
>>>
>>> Do you expect similar gain for other ops?
>>>
>>> I wonder if it would not be better to target 7.1 for that,  adding it
>>> for other string operations, in one go. Most of the current patch is
>>> self contained, it adds quite some complexity to the engine for these
>>> operations only and it is not a small change at this stage (post
>>> features freeze). It sounds like a possible maintenance pain. Taking
>> Actually, it's not.
>>
>> previously we have ADD_STRING/CHAR/VAR and CONCAT
>>
>> the 2nd branch cleanup these, and now we only deal with one type 
>> concat_list. :)
>
> Right, it simplifies part of the existing implementation and add some
> complexities to other. It only adds this OP and keep other with the
> "old" implementation, that's actually the only part where I am not
> totally convinced. It may make sense to do it all at once, if that's
> the long term plan, easier to maintain.
>
> But if we do prefer to add this now, then the sooner the better, it
> may have some hard to catch bugs. Now, we have one issue, we cannot
> have a RFC (deadline behind us) and this is still a rather big change
> :/
from user land.  this won't change anything..

and regarding to the object overriden concat.....

I doubt it is not used at all :)

thanks
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Pierre
>
> @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org



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