Hey: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Pascal Chevrel <pascal.chev...@free.fr> wrote: > Le 16/03/2015 12:39, Xinchen Hui a écrit : >> >> Hey: > > >> >> And last comment, if there no such declare thing, I will definitely >> vote yes to this RFC. > > > Hi Xinchen, > > You can also not vote at all, that's a very valid option. > By voting yes, you say that you want PHP developers to have access to STH in > PHP 7, by voting No, you say that you don't want PHP developers to be able > to use STH in PHP 7. By not voting, you let the rest of the PHP community > that cares about STH (both for and against) decide if the feature gets in > the language. As a person with voting rights, you should study the RFCs in > details, understand them fully and vote on what you think you have > understanding and expertise on. There is no obligation to vote on all RFCs. > > It seems that you won't use STH yourself so you will probably never use > declare in your code and won't be impacted by the existence or not of the > feature. I also don't like how the declare syntax looks, and similarily I > personnally dislike even more how ugly the namespace syntax is in PHP with > the backslashes (Foo\Bar\Baz), yet, I am happy that we do have the > possibility to namespace our code, because PHP 5 *needed* that feature. And > I think PHP 7 needs something like that, I also think it's a very clever > solution as we can keep on using PHP as a weakly typed language as usual but > also strenghten some of our code that needs strong typing. > >> >> that's why I want vote no for this, and wait for Bob's Basic STH. >> >> thanks > > > It's too late, Bob's Basic STH missed the schedule for PHP 7, it was > proposed way too late and the coercive STH RFC has just zero chance to pass, > it's too much of a BC break for everybody. The dual mode STH is the only > chance to have something for PHP 7 and remain competitive with HHVM, > Node.js… that we see people switch to. Baidu switched to HHVM, Wikipedia > too, in my country big names switched from PHP to node.js and that was not > just for performance reasons, it was also for the features. Zeev himself > admitted that we need something for PHP 7. > > Personnally, I think the dual mode is a very clever way to please all PHP > developpers, those that want to use weak typing, those that want to use > stronger typing and those like me that would continue to use weak typing > because it's convenient but would be happy to use STH on very specific parts > of his code that would benefit from it. don't worry, it will pass
thanks > > Cheers, > > Pascal > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Xinchen Hui @Laruence http://www.laruence.com/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
