Hi, Lester >> Can't we restore the simple way of working in PHP7 > >> where it does not need to wrap around other things quite so closely? > > > > Hi Lester, > > > > This way if doing things on php didn't go anywhere, people just stopped > > using it because they saw better alternatives. > > I could accept that statement if there was any actual evidence! The > problem today is not 'better alternatives' but rather the new bread of > developers who's interest is in the tools themselves rather than > actually using the results in practice. The split at the moment is one > of usability over language aesthetics. The very fact that 'you don't > have to use namespace or strict typing' means that for the majority of > users there is no need to change ...
Perhaps you missed the point of this thread. We are not imposing anyone to use namespaces (or scalar typehints), and neither discussing frivolous aesthetic changes. This thread is about a functionality that could improve PHP namespace and make function autoloading manageable on a not so distant future. In fact, there are clear benefits for anyone using namespaces in any context. > except the library developers are > continually moving the goal posts so that we HAVE to use some features, > or at least be up to speed on the third party use of those features > where we ARE reliant on third party libraries for many things. > > The small stepping stones down a path that is NOT pulling everybody else > into the same vision is what is now threatening to blow PHP out of the > water. I do really feel that some things are going too far and need > their own 'space' along side PHP rather than being forced onto the rest > of use who simply want a stable language to work with. The proposed addition won't make the language less stable. You are probably referring to something unrelated to this thread. Please keep the discussion on topic. Sincerely, Márcio Almada
