On 13/02/15 21:16, Nikita Nefedov wrote: >> Can't we restore the simple way of working in PHP7 >> where it does not need to wrap around other things quite so closely? > > Hi Lester, > > This way if doing things on php didn't go anywhere, people just stopped > using it because they saw better alternatives.
I could accept that statement if there was any actual evidence! The problem today is not 'better alternatives' but rather the new bread of developers who's interest is in the tools themselves rather than actually using the results in practice. The split at the moment is one of usability over language aesthetics. The very fact that 'you don't have to use namespace or strict typing' means that for the majority of users there is no need to change ... except the library developers are continually moving the goal posts so that we HAVE to use some features, or at least be up to speed on the third party use of those features where we ARE reliant on third party libraries for many things. The small stepping stones down a path that is NOT pulling everybody else into the same vision is what is now threatening to blow PHP out of the water. I do really feel that some things are going too far and need their own 'space' along side PHP rather than being forced onto the rest of use who simply want a stable language to work with. PHPNG is the sort of improvement that was needed - speed. Even namespaces are not essential to that target as simply adding a tag to any library function is more than adequate, and even the fact that procedural functions seem to be getting a little more respect shows that totally OO PHP is not yet a user demand. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
