Hi Dmitry, On 25 Jul, 2014, at 6:09 am, Dmitry Stogov <dmi...@zend.com> wrote:
> any one may vote according to their thoughts > I'm not going to persuade any one. > I already know the opinion of the majority. > > Unfortunately, now many people lessen to the guys who speaks a lot. > I was never able to do it :), but ... look into results we provide. > They are more expressive than any words. First of all, kudos for all the hard you and the team have been putting into this :) From a developer’s point of view it would be nice to see a write-up of some of the changes that were made to the API's; I’m currently aware of the array (hash) API changes which are definitely an improvement over the old one, but there may be more that could also use an “idiom conversion guide”. > > Thanks. Dmitry, > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Dmitry Stogov <dmi...@zend.com> wrote: >> >>> one week - two weeks - months - years. >>> I'll wait. >>> I know what I'm doing. I'll make it. >>> >>> Dmitry. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2014 10:13 PM, "Dmitry Stogov" <dmi...@zend.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> agree, >>>>> >>>>> I just don't see any blockers, except for Pierre. >>>> >>>> Come on Dmitry, I am not the only who has asked that. >>>> >>> >> >> Just to throw in my usual two-cents, it seems to me that this RFC is very >> premature. It's the same sort of over-eagerness I saw in the front-page >> news post a few weeks back. I understand what you guys are trying to >> accomplish and I applaud you for it, but as far as I can see, it's still >> quite a ways away from being ready for prime time. And yet, you seem to be >> acting like it's already there. >> >> Aside from the code needing to be ready/tested, you also need to have a >> more matured collaboration with community folks outside your project like >> Pierre, which at the moment appears to be downright hostile. Even if the >> code looked great and everything else was in place, I would never vote to >> switch over to such a drastic new schema when there's this much animosity >> and controversy surrounding it. I keep reading complaints about questions >> being ignored and conflicting stories about secrecy and process. I also >> think there's some merit to the concern raised about the ambiguity being a >> prelude to patches being rejected over trivial concerns. >> >> I think you guys need to slow down and mend a few fences if you want to >> make this happen. As much as I like the goals of this project, I'm forced >> to vote -1 for now, as well. I just think you're jumping the gun when >> there are too many unanswered questions/concerns still out there. >> >> --Kris >> >> Best, Tjerk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
