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Am 28.01.2013 18:35, schrieb Pierre Joye:
> On Jan 28, 2013 6:22 PM, "Zeev Suraski" <z...@zend.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree, but we’re in opposite camps on this feature.  What does
>> that
> mean? J
> 
> Go back to our roots? :-)

Classless, Exception-less and when somebody says something on a list,
it gets implemented just like that with any arbitrary naming scheme? ;-)

I think this is not where most people want to go, but experiences may
differ. People I talk to are either "Let's not break what works" or
"I'd like PHP to have X to compete with Y or to eliminate ugly
workaround Z" or something in between. PHP is strong where it offers
features without forcing users to use exactly these and nothing else.

The core people have limited time for listening if they want to get
anything done. There is little awareness among php users

* that not everything needs to go into core or mainstream extensions
just because other languages have it there
* that the right place to push change is not reddit or heise.de or
myfavoritepythonblog.com but the community itself.

I can't help that. I am here because I think exceptions should be in
more places where we now have fatals and I learnt a lot why this is
not happening now and why it is complicated to achieve and what it
could break.

In politics, everybody is advocate of silent majorities if he cannot
be advocate of vocal majorities. Let's not have this here :)

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