Bah sorry everyone, I just woke up and I'm still a little groggy lol.  It
is in fact 2 weeks.

--Kris


On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> err it might be 1 week, not 2.  Either way, it's definitely too soon for
> mine to be voted on.
>
> --Kris
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Tom Boutell <t...@punkave.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think a consensus on the following points is likely to emerge
>>> without voting on them individually. I propose carrying out a vote
>>> with up to three questions to be answered depending on your response
>>> to each. We could then proceed to discuss the (relatively boring but
>>> essential) details of keywords and extensions, if any, and create a
>>> final RFC.
>>>
>>> Hopefully all parties can agree to be bound by the results of a vote
>>> on these three questions and work together to create a final RFC that
>>> abides by the result or let the matter drop.
>>>
>>> Let's briefly discuss whether these questions truly represent the
>>> major differences between the three RFCs (not the merits of those
>>> positions please) and then, I hope, carry out a vote on them so we can
>>> move on.
>>>
>>> The Questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Whether a "pure code" mode in which <?php is not required at the
>>> top of a file, and the <?php and ?> tags are not permitted at all in
>>> such a file:
>>>
>>> * Has merit and should be pursued (option 1a), or
>>> * Should be dropped entirely (option 1b).
>>>
>>> If your vote is for option 1a, please respond to the following
>>> additional question:
>>>
>>> 2. Whether "pure code" mode should be:
>>>
>>> * Toggled globally by a php.ini option such that <?php and ?> tags are
>>> completely forbidden when this mode is active (option 2a), or
>>> * Switched on by keywords and SAPI options that allow the sysadmin and
>>> developer to make the choice at runtime, with the ability to make that
>>> choice differently for different files or invocations, so that a mix
>>> of "pure code" files and files that forbid <?php and ?> can exist
>>> (option 2b).
>>>
>>> 3. If your vote is for option 2b, please respond to the following
>>> additional question:
>>>
>>> Whether "pure code" mode should:
>>>
>>> * Forbid requiring a non-pure file from a pure file (option 3a), or
>>> * Permit requiring non-pure files from pure files (option 3b).
>>>
>>
>> Question 3 may not be necessary given a possible new parallel approach
>> being discussed.  Please refer to my RFCs thread for details and to weigh
>> in on that.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I believe Kris Craig and Yasuo Ohgaki will find that these questions
>>> accurately sum up our really significant unreconciled differences
>>> (and, with the inclusion of question 1, the position of those who
>>> don't want the feature at all).
>>>
>>> These three questions deliberately don't address what the keywords or
>>> file extensions or other mechanisms are called exactly, because I
>>> believe those issues to be fairly simple to agree upon once we have
>>> decided the basics.
>>>
>>
>> Overall, I like the idea, but I think it's premature.  For my part, I
>> still need more time to brainstorm and discuss.  Keep in mind that my RFC
>> was only drafted a few days ago and the RFC process requires a *minimum* of
>> 2 weeks before a vote can be held.  I'd prefer to adhere to that rule for
>> the time being.  I see no benefit in rushing things.  I ask that everybody
>> come back to the table and spend some more time trying to establish where
>> we share common ground.  I can't support a vote, at least on my RFC, at
>> this time.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > hi,
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>  Perhaps a new list for RFC-specific discussions?  =)
>>> >
>>> > We don't need yet a new list. Sit down together and get over your
>>> > differences and create the RFC or more if you can't get over your
>>> > differences.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > --
>>> > Pierre
>>> >
>>> > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org
>>> >
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