OK, All the mud slinging is getting really silly (on *both* sides). There's no 
need to denigrate others because you don't agree with them. There's no point in 
arguing about who isn't a team player or who works for which evil multinational 
corporation. Nobody is attacking anybody else by suggesting that Suhosin is or 
is not critical, and none of that really matters anyway.

I may have missed something, but has anyone asked *why* the patch was disabled? 
I think I could make a good guess, but I haven't seen even the slightest hint 
of the actual reasons in this email chain (though I could easily have missed it 
entirely).

IMO we should try to focus on:
1. What are the pros vs. cons of enabling the Suhosin patch by default?
2. Why did the Debian team opt to disable it?
3. Are there better solutions that should be considered and recommended?

John Crenshaw
Priacta, Inc.

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