hi Stefan,

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Stefan Esser <ste...@nopiracy.de> wrote:
> Hello Soenke,
>
>> I know it's hard because he personally attacks people and this doesn't
>> help at all, but deal with him. He really made PHP and the interwebs
>> more secure for the last decade.
>>
>> Do not respect him for how (bad) he's communicating things, respect him
>> for what he coded. We are coders.
>
> I am not attacking people personally. Telling someone that he looks very 
> stupid, because he did something stupid is not a personal attack. It is 
> stating the facts.

OH! Please! Please! Can we move this discussion at a technical level?

> How does it not look stupid for the "lead" maintainer of PHP in Debian* to 
> write a "We do not need Suhosin, because I believe there will be no future 
> Bugs in PHP" mail the very same day various PHP distributions have to put out 
> updates because of a critical security bug that INFACT is mititgated by PHP.
> People don't get that saying we do not need Suhosin because there have been 
> no such critical bugs is like saying: we code perfectly we do not need ASLR, 
> NX, Fortify Source, ...

Again, please tell me which part of Suhosin would make sense to have
in the core? With technical explanation or details. Then we can begin
a good discussion and maybe a RFC to get them in.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

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