On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi Stas, > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@sugarcrm.com> > wrote: > > Hi! > > > >> This attitude only makes me lose a lot of time answering questions > >> instead of focusing on actual RFC stability. I want to propose > >> something stable, I do not want to be pressured about should the RFC > >> exist or not. It only delays the real voting results. What I can do to > >> address this? > > > > I would concentrate on cleaning up RFC and bringing it to some state > that is > > stable and that has some consensus behind it. Right now I see many people > > are against it. So I would address the concerns raised (provided it's > > possible), refine all unclear points and then maybe try again. > > The RFC is actually clean and implements PSR-0, it has been discussed > and approved by many PHP frameworks or projects. We are hiding > ourselves in the sand if we don't see that. Arguing about PSR-0 is > fine but that's not the place to do it. And as PSR-0 is already > approved, poeple with issues should bring them in the PSR-0 discussion > channel, for the next version of PSR. > > But blocking the only thing so many PHP projects have ever agreed on > is a major mistake. And it is a political and religious choice > (religious as in "php does not enforce standard"). Even for something > that does not enforce anything if not used. > > And as far as I can see, the RFC is approved as of now. So if the wast majority of the community would use/depend on features like magic_quotes or safe_mode, the that justifies adding/keeping those features even though if from the technically point of view they are flawed? I'm just playing the Devil's advocate here. Btw: when will we close the votes? I didn't had time to catch up with the changes in the RFC, so my vote is based on an earlier version, I would like to re-read and if the previous concerns are resolved I would like to change my vote, so it would be good to know in advance when will we close the voting. thanks -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
