On May 11, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:

> Hi!
> 
>> Waiting a month or two longer is worth it, especially considering the
>> 5.4 momentum feels real this time around. We're creating a real TODO,
>> and have a real tentative timeline, so forcing a premature alpha at
>> this point (thus closing off feature/api discussion) is a bad idea. A
>> big -1 here. I mean, we may as well get it right since we've waited
>> so long already.
> 
> I don't think it's closing feature discussion. We can have another alpha 
> after the discussion, or more than one. I can see the value of having 
> _something_ right now to signify we mean it this time, but that something 
> would definitely not be anything near final and we can take features in after 
> the discussion is done.

The alpha release proposal by Andi contains the text:

  "I think we (almost) all agree that we need to start pushing PHP 5.4 with all 
the goodness that has been developed "to-date". Additional features can wait 
for the next version."

So, that's the concern there. But if the alpha is simply a trick to convince 
people to test out a specific PHP 5.4 snapshot, and feel 5.4 is real, then do 
it. ;)

Regards,
Philip


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